Return-Path: Delivered-To: apmail-incubator-general-archive@www.apache.org Received: (qmail 24998 invoked from network); 24 Nov 2010 08:41:28 -0000 Received: from unknown (HELO mail.apache.org) (140.211.11.3) by 140.211.11.9 with SMTP; 24 Nov 2010 08:41:28 -0000 Received: (qmail 32828 invoked by uid 500); 24 Nov 2010 08:41:59 -0000 Delivered-To: apmail-incubator-general-archive@incubator.apache.org Received: (qmail 32605 invoked by uid 500); 24 Nov 2010 08:41:59 -0000 Mailing-List: contact general-help@incubator.apache.org; run by ezmlm Precedence: bulk List-Help: List-Unsubscribe: List-Post: List-Id: Reply-To: general@incubator.apache.org Delivered-To: mailing list general@incubator.apache.org Received: (qmail 32596 invoked by uid 99); 24 Nov 2010 08:41:59 -0000 Received: from nike.apache.org (HELO nike.apache.org) (192.87.106.230) by apache.org (qpsmtpd/0.29) with ESMTP; Wed, 24 Nov 2010 08:41:59 +0000 X-ASF-Spam-Status: No, hits=0.0 required=10.0 tests=FREEMAIL_FROM,RCVD_IN_DNSWL_NONE,SPF_PASS,T_TO_NO_BRKTS_FREEMAIL X-Spam-Check-By: apache.org Received-SPF: pass (nike.apache.org: domain of ant.elder@gmail.com designates 209.85.161.47 as permitted sender) Received: from [209.85.161.47] (HELO mail-fx0-f47.google.com) (209.85.161.47) by apache.org (qpsmtpd/0.29) with ESMTP; Wed, 24 Nov 2010 08:41:51 +0000 Received: by fxm7 with SMTP id 7so2155765fxm.6 for ; Wed, 24 Nov 2010 00:41:31 -0800 (PST) DKIM-Signature: v=1; a=rsa-sha256; c=relaxed/relaxed; d=gmail.com; s=gamma; h=domainkey-signature:mime-version:received:received:reply-to :in-reply-to:references:date:message-id:subject:from:to:content-type :content-transfer-encoding; bh=h1r6K4y0P56Dkq8NmnoORA0e4A4fo1OM5wKGIyjLTis=; b=URj23ToZtdwCYTgGBmT+x8g4ciH7KIAk+79DcY1ghtyVQ2k0GCAth3wXGKpkDo40mR /46oD7HvkRy+Mch+5FlSAc2h1zEjRJb5tpCGxkW80QvgzhFUf48FGN58BUHLYOVVCgRf +5zjhzNFz8axIUi3RI9RHHMq3yfGZ17TA7wHI= DomainKey-Signature: a=rsa-sha1; c=nofws; d=gmail.com; s=gamma; h=mime-version:reply-to:in-reply-to:references:date:message-id :subject:from:to:content-type:content-transfer-encoding; b=cy/q4Q16BEyp0pWypPW04IDYCXHXclPQ95vJ5XnpuZuSEcjgo2yFAHbWEU1hIa6Uf7 RPZ4bgYi4p+sjEeUTQgnt93rQcl5eCFGxQNB82GhDoRY2eysutrUrJ3veL0zCBzVBteL IJn5uhEV9j/LnxCEC2zOoF672RS45oBQFRGlU= MIME-Version: 1.0 Received: by 10.223.103.2 with SMTP id i2mr7418986fao.115.1290588091658; Wed, 24 Nov 2010 00:41:31 -0800 (PST) Received: by 10.223.83.130 with HTTP; Wed, 24 Nov 2010 00:41:31 -0800 (PST) Reply-To: antelder@apache.org In-Reply-To: References: <4CEC54E8.7040809@apache.org> <505E96FB-E0C7-483C-8ADA-64EBE02D9A98@dslextreme.com> <34576294-B2B9-4B47-93C5-5681C1D43954@dslextreme.com> Date: Wed, 24 Nov 2010 08:41:31 +0000 Message-ID: Subject: Re: [PROPOSAL] Accept Wave for incubation From: ant elder To: general@incubator.apache.org Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1 Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable X-Virus-Checked: Checked by ClamAV on apache.org On Wed, Nov 24, 2010 at 5:26 AM, Greg Stein wrote: > On Tue, Nov 23, 2010 at 22:45, Ralph Goers w= rote: >> On Nov 23, 2010, at 6:06 PM, Greg Stein wrote: >>> On Tue, Nov 23, 2010 at 20:47, Ralph Goers = wrote: >>>> ... >>>> OK - Have they explicitly OK'd Apache Wave? =A0While Apache Wave would= certainly be unique to Apache, if Google intends to keep using Google Wave= (and Wave as a shorthand) this would get very confusing. >>> >>> Don't you think that by proposing Wave to the Incubator that Google >>> has OK'd this? >> >> I don't work for Google and don't know the people proposing this so no, = I have no idea whether Google has OK'd this. > > Simple review: the original email was sent by Dan Peterson from his > google.com address. I imagine that if Google had a problem with it, > then he wouldn't be working there tomorrow :-D ... or if this was some > kind of spurious one-guy-goes-batshit-crazy, then how could he line up > so many people? > > And sure, while you couldn't know this, Dan is a great guy. I worked > with him while at Google. This proposal is straight-up. > > My simple point is: please accept proposals at face value rather than > pushing back with paranoid thoughts about malfeasance on the part of > the people wanting to join our efforts here at the ASF. > Ralph's question seemed reasonable to me, the ASF trademarks people are a often mentioning problems with using trademarked names like this. However its something that can be sorted out with those ASF trademarks folks during incubation, its not a barrier for entry to incubation. Anyway, seems like a fine proposal to me, +1 for it coming to Apache. ...ant --------------------------------------------------------------------- To unsubscribe, e-mail: general-unsubscribe@incubator.apache.org For additional commands, e-mail: general-help@incubator.apache.org