Return-Path: Delivered-To: apmail-incubator-general-archive@www.apache.org Received: (qmail 39987 invoked from network); 30 Nov 2010 15:04:09 -0000 Received: from unknown (HELO mail.apache.org) (140.211.11.3) by 140.211.11.9 with SMTP; 30 Nov 2010 15:04:09 -0000 Received: (qmail 51572 invoked by uid 500); 30 Nov 2010 15:04:08 -0000 Delivered-To: apmail-incubator-general-archive@incubator.apache.org Received: (qmail 51362 invoked by uid 500); 30 Nov 2010 15:04:07 -0000 Mailing-List: contact general-help@incubator.apache.org; run by ezmlm Precedence: bulk List-Help: List-Unsubscribe: List-Post: List-Id: Reply-To: general@incubator.apache.org Delivered-To: mailing list general@incubator.apache.org Received: (qmail 51339 invoked by uid 99); 30 Nov 2010 15:04:07 -0000 Received: from athena.apache.org (HELO athena.apache.org) (140.211.11.136) by apache.org (qpsmtpd/0.29) with ESMTP; Tue, 30 Nov 2010 15:04:07 +0000 X-ASF-Spam-Status: No, hits=-2.3 required=10.0 tests=RCVD_IN_DNSWL_MED,SPF_PASS X-Spam-Check-By: apache.org Received-SPF: pass (athena.apache.org: local policy) Received: from [128.149.139.105] (HELO mail.jpl.nasa.gov) (128.149.139.105) by apache.org (qpsmtpd/0.29) with ESMTP; Tue, 30 Nov 2010 15:04:01 +0000 Received: from mail.jpl.nasa.gov (altvirehtstap02.jpl.nasa.gov [128.149.137.73]) by smtp.jpl.nasa.gov (Switch-3.4.3/Switch-3.4.3) with ESMTP id oAUF1T8c019788 (using TLSv1/SSLv3 with cipher RC4-MD5 (128 bits) verified FAIL); Tue, 30 Nov 2010 07:03:36 -0800 Received: from ALTPHYEMBEVSP20.RES.AD.JPL ([128.149.137.82]) by ALTVIREHTSTAP02.RES.AD.JPL ([128.149.137.73]) with mapi; Tue, 30 Nov 2010 07:03:34 -0800 From: "Mattmann, Chris A (388J)" To: "general@incubator.apache.org" , "dpeterson@google.com" CC: wave-protocol Date: Tue, 30 Nov 2010 07:03:33 -0800 Subject: Re: [VOTE] Accept Wave into the incubator Thread-Topic: [VOTE] Accept Wave into the incubator Thread-Index: AcuQn8JfoffBclAsSIqjikMTRcHy0A== Message-ID: <96EA2560-17D8-4184-9F14-811F7802933F@jpl.nasa.gov> References: In-Reply-To: Accept-Language: en-US Content-Language: en-US X-MS-Has-Attach: X-MS-TNEF-Correlator: acceptlanguage: en-US Content-Type: text/plain; charset="Windows-1252" Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable MIME-Version: 1.0 X-Source-IP: altvirehtstap02.jpl.nasa.gov [128.149.137.73] X-Source-Sender: chris.a.mattmann@jpl.nasa.gov X-AUTH: Authorized +1 (binding). Cheers, Chris On Nov 29, 2010, at 10:52 PM, Dan Peterson wrote: > Hi everyone, > > Please vote on the acceptance of Wave into the Apache incubator. > > The proposal is available at: http://wiki.apache.org/incubator/WavePropos= al > (for your convenience, a snapshot is also copied below) > > The earlier discussion thread can be found at: > http://apache.markmail.org/message/3ebtccdxvipp2732?q=3Dgeneral%40incubat= or.apache.org+list:org.apache.incubator.general+order:date-backward&page=3D= 2 > > The vote options: > > [ ] +1 Accept Wave for incubation > [ ] +0 Don't care > [ ] -1 Reject for the following reason: > > The vote is open for 72 hours. > > Thanks, > -Dan > > Apache Wave Proposal (Apache Incubator) > > =3D Abstract =3D > > Apache Wave is the project where wave technology is developed at Apache. > Wave in a Box (WIAB) is the name of the main product at the moment, which= is > a server that hosts and federates waves, supports extensive APIs, and > provides a rich web client. This project also includes an implementation = of > the Wave Federation protocol, to enable federated collaboration systems > (such as multiple interoperable Wave In a Box instances). > > =3D Proposal =3D > > A wave is a hosted, live, concurrent data structure for rich communicatio= n. > It can be used like email, chat, or a document. > > WIAB is a server that hosts waves. The best analogy for this is a mail > server with a web client. WIAB is comprised of a few high-level component= s: > the client and the server. They have the following major functionality > (though this is not an exhaustive list): > > * Client > *A dynamic web client for users to create, edit, and search waves. Users > can access this client by directly visiting the server in a browser. > * Gadgets provide the ability to insert, view, and modify the UI -- > exposing the Wave Gadgets API ( > http://code.google.com/apis/wave/extensions/gadgets/guide.html) > * A console client that can create and edit waves via a command-line-lik= e > interface. > * Server > * Hosts and stores waves. WIAB comes with a default storage mechanism. T= he > administrators of the server may configure it to use alternative storage > mechanisms. > * Indexing, allowing for searching the waves a user has access to. > * Basic authentication, configurable to delegate to other systems. > * Federation, allowing separate Wave in a Box servers to communicate wit= h > each other using the Wave Federation Protocol ( > http://www.waveprotocol.org/federation). > * Robots, using the Wave Robots API, ( > http://code.google.com/apis/wave/extensions/robots/) may interact with wa= ves > on a WIAB instance. > > =3D Background =3D > > Wave expresses a new metaphor for communication: hosted conversations. Th= is > was created by Lars and Jens Rasmussen after observation of people's use = of > many separate forms of communication to get something done, e.g, email, > chat, docs, blogs, twitter, etc. > > The vision has always been to better the way people communicate and > collaborate. Building open protocols and sharing code available in an ope= n > and free way is a critical part of that vision. Anyone should be able to > bring up their own wave server and communicate with others (much like SMT= P). > > We hope this project will allow everyone to easily gain the benefits of W= ave > with a standard implementation of Wave =96 in a box. > > =3D Rationale =3D > > Wave has shown it excels at small group collaboration when hosted by Goog= le. > Although Wave will not continue as a standalone Google product, there is = a > lot of interest from many organizations in both running Wave and building > upon the technology for new products. > > We are confident that with the community-centric development environment > fostered by the Apache Software Foundation, WIAB will thrive. > > =3D Initial Goals =3D > > The initial goals of the project are: > > 1. To migrate the codebase from code.google.com and integrate the projec= t > with the ASF infrastructure (issue management, build, project site, etc). > 1. To quickly reach a state where it is possible to continue the > development of the Wave In a Box implementation under the ASF project. > 1. To add new committers to the project and grow the community in "The > Apache Way". > > =3D Current Status =3D > > The open source Wave in a Box project has existed in various forms for > approximately 16 months (starting out life as the FedOne open source > project). > > FedOne began in July 2009 in order to accelerate adoption of the wave > federation protocol, and serve as a proof of concept that a non-Google > implementation of the wave federation protocol could interoperate with th= e > Google production instance. It worked. FedOne's existence lead to a > prototype by Novell that demonstrated federation between Google Wave and > Novell Pulse (now known as Vibe). In addition, in May of 2010, SAP unveil= ed > a prototype version of SAP StreamWork that federated with both Novell Pul= se > and Google Wave. All three systems interoperated, sharing real-time state= , > and gadget updates. In May 2010 Google released significantly more code > (including the cross-browser rich text editor) to connect with other > components that were built from scratch, resulting in a simple web client= . > > The project has grown over the last year to include many Google and > non-Google contributions. The project has picked up steam in recent mont= hs > as the direction of the standalone Google Wave product has shifted. At t= his > time the Wave in a Box project enjoys very active development, with new > features and functionality being added almost daily. The first Wave Proto= col > Summit was recently held and included developers from a variety of > countries, companies, and organizations. > > The code base is a mixture of mature core code from Google Wave, and > somewhat immature integration code forming WIAB. WIAB is quickly becoming > highly functional and is already in a very "demoable" state. The > development mailing lists are very active indicating wide community > support. We recognize that now is a good time to migrate to the Apache > Foundation while the codebase and community is a manageable size. Assumi= ng > the current momentum continues, we expect strong growth in the code and > community in the near future. > > =3D=3D Meritocracy =3D=3D > > The initial set of committers includes many Google employees, and there i= s > an active and growing community outside Google contributing to WIAB alrea= dy > today. Google culture itself encourages meritocracy, and the community ha= s > always grown =96 and will continue to grow =96 in this fashion. > > As shown by the initial committers list below, several members from outsi= de > of Google have already demonstrated interest, skill, and commitment to > contributing to the project. These individuals have been recognized on > those merits by the initial committers. Their selection as the first wav= e > of new committers is a sign of the burgeoning meritocracy. > > =3D=3D Community =3D=3D > > Wave currently has a healthy community around waveprotocol.org, with > conversations hosted at http://groups.google.com/group/wave-protocol. We > plan to move this community to the Apache Software Foundation incubator. > > =3D=3D Core Developers =3D=3D > > The initial committers comes from a variety of backgrounds and includes m= any > from Google. There are a few existing Apache committers amongst this init= ial > group. We anticipate early future committers coming from places like > Novell, SAP, companies related to the US Navy's usage of wave, startups i= n > the wave ecosystem, and many independent individuals. > > =3D=3D Alignment =3D=3D > > The developers of WIAB want to work with the Apache Software Foundation > because Apache has proven to provide a strong foundation with good > infrastructure and support for developing projects in an open community. = As > WIAB continues to grow, the community will look to both reuse available > Apache projects as well as look for opportunities to contribute back to t= he > larger Apache community. > > =3D Known Risks =3D > > =3D=3D Orphaned products =3D=3D > > Wave is a new means for communication, and thus it is still maturing. Whi= le > the initial implementation (Google Wave) did not gain sufficient traction > for it to continue as a standalone Google product, there are other relate= d > projects (e.g. Novell Vibe, SAP StreamWork), and several startups in the > space that are continuing to build on the technology. In addition, the US > Navy has contracted with four companies as part of evaluating using wave > technology on every ship. The community itself is still growing, with > several new contributors recently added. > > =3D=3D Inexperience with Open Source =3D=3D > > The initial committers have varying degrees of experience with open sourc= e > projects. Many from the community are familiar with open source. > > =3D=3D Homogeneous Developers =3D=3D > > The initial set of developers does include many from Google. However, the > project has accepted many patches from independent individuals, and some > have already gained committership. Several companies have expressed inter= est > and forty individuals participated in the Wave Summit. > > =3D=3D Reliance on Salaried Developers =3D=3D > > Following Google's change of focus for Wave in August, some of Wave's Goo= gle > developers have chosen to continue working on Wave, but it is imperative > that we continue to grow the community larger in the coming months. > > =3D=3D Relationships with Other Apache Products =3D=3D > > We currently use the following libraries from Apache > * Commons CLI > * Commons Codec > * Commons HttpClient > * Commons Logging > * Velocity > * Ant > > We've also contributed the Wave Gadget implementation into the Apache > Shindig project. > > =3D Documentation =3D > > Entry point for documentation of all the specs and designs. > http://waveprotocol.org/ > > Wave Robots API > http://code.google.com/apis/wave/extensions/robots/ > > Wave Gadgets API > http://code.google.com/apis/wave/extensions/gadgets/guide.html > > =3D Initial Source =3D > > The initial source will come from > http://code.google.com/p/wave-protocol/source/browse/. This consists of t= he > Java code necessary for the client and server. These are already open sou= rce > repositories licensed under the Apache Public License. > > =3D Source and Intellectual Property Submission Plan =3D > > Beginning with the initial unveiling, Google published a liberal patent > license: > > Subject to the terms and conditions of this License, Google and its > affiliates hereby grant to you a perpetual, worldwide, non-exclusive, > no-charge, royalty-free, irrevocable (except as stated in this License) > patent license for patents necessarily infringed by implementation of thi= s > specification. If you institute patent litigation against any entity > (including a cross-claim or counterclaim in a lawsuit) alleging that the > implementation of the specification constitutes direct or contributory > patent infringement, then any patent licenses for the specification grant= ed > to you under this License shall terminate as of the date such litigation = is > filed. > > http://www.waveprotocol.org/patent-license > > =3D=3D Trademarks =3D=3D > > Google retains all rights to the trademarks "GOOGLE WAVE" and the wave > design logo, neither of which will be used in the Apache Wave project. > > =3D External Dependencies =3D > > In addition to the previously mentioned Apache dependencies, the initial > code relies on the following libraries that have Apache compatible licens= es: > > antlr, aopalliance, asm, bouncycastle, cglib, dom4j, emma, gson, guava, > guice, gwt, gxp, hamcrest, jackson, jdom, jetty, jline, jmock, joda_time, > jsr305, junit, libidn, mockito, mongo-driver, oauth, protobuf, > protobuf-format-java, protostuff, stringtemplate, websocket, whack, xpp3 > > =3D Cryptography =3D > > We use standard crypto library methods available in java.security.*. Wave > federation plans to uses encryption for sending deltas to remote Wave > servers. > > =3D Required Resources =3D > > =3D=3D Mailing lists =3D=3D > > * wave-dev > * wave-commits > * wave-private > > It is possible that if the project does grown to include many sub project > that we would split the mailing list up by sub project. Again we have > flexibility. > > > =3D=3D Subversion Directory =3D=3D > > https://svn.apache.org/repos/asf/incubator/wave > > =3D=3D Issue Tracking =3D=3D > > Please help us setup a JIRA instance for both issue tracking and code > review. > > =3D=3D Other Resources =3D=3D > > * a wiki (for the sites pages) ( > http://incubator.apache.org/guides/sites.html or a wiki > http://wiki.apache.org/incubator/) > * code review on reviews.apache.org > * a server to run a dogfood instance > * continuous build bot > > =3D Initial Committers =3D > > * Alex North (Google) > * Anthony Watkins (SESI) > * Christian Ohler (Google) > * Dan Danilatos (Google) > * Dan Peterson (Google) / dpeterson@apache.org > * David Hearnden (Google) > * David Wang (Google) > * Ian Roughley (Novell) / roughley@apache.org > * James Purser > * Joseph Gentle > * Lennard de Rijk > * Michael MacFadden (Solute) > * Soren Lassen (Google) > * Tad Glines > * Torben Weis (University Duisburg-Essen) > > =3D Sponsors =3D > > =3D=3D Champion =3D=3D > > * Paul Lindner > > =3D=3D Nominated Mentors =3D=3D > > * Santiago Gala > * Upayavira > * Andrus Adamchik > * Vincent Siveton > * Ben Laurie > > =3D=3D Sponsoring Entity =3D=3D > > The Apache Incubator. ++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++ Chris Mattmann, Ph.D. Senior Computer Scientist NASA Jet Propulsion Laboratory Pasadena, CA 91109 USA Office: 171-266B, Mailstop: 171-246 Email: Chris.Mattmann@jpl.nasa.gov WWW: http://sunset.usc.edu/~mattmann/ ++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++ Adjunct Assistant Professor, Computer Science Department University of Southern California, Los Angeles, CA 90089 USA ++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++ --------------------------------------------------------------------- To unsubscribe, e-mail: general-unsubscribe@incubator.apache.org For additional commands, e-mail: general-help@incubator.apache.org