From general-return-27244-apmail-incubator-general-archive=incubator.apache.org@incubator.apache.org Wed Nov 24 14:02:48 2010 Return-Path: Delivered-To: apmail-incubator-general-archive@www.apache.org Received: (qmail 76966 invoked from network); 24 Nov 2010 14:02:47 -0000 Received: from unknown (HELO mail.apache.org) (140.211.11.3) by 140.211.11.9 with SMTP; 24 Nov 2010 14:02:47 -0000 Received: (qmail 95104 invoked by uid 500); 24 Nov 2010 14:03:18 -0000 Delivered-To: apmail-incubator-general-archive@incubator.apache.org Received: (qmail 94773 invoked by uid 500); 24 Nov 2010 14:03:17 -0000 Mailing-List: contact general-help@incubator.apache.org; run by ezmlm Precedence: bulk List-Help: List-Unsubscribe: List-Post: List-Id: Reply-To: general@incubator.apache.org Delivered-To: mailing list general@incubator.apache.org Received: (qmail 94762 invoked by uid 99); 24 Nov 2010 14:03:17 -0000 Received: from nike.apache.org (HELO nike.apache.org) (192.87.106.230) by apache.org (qpsmtpd/0.29) with ESMTP; Wed, 24 Nov 2010 14:03:17 +0000 X-ASF-Spam-Status: No, hits=0.0 required=10.0 tests=FREEMAIL_FROM,RCVD_IN_DNSWL_NONE,SPF_PASS,T_TO_NO_BRKTS_FREEMAIL X-Spam-Check-By: apache.org Received-SPF: pass (nike.apache.org: domain of bimargulies@gmail.com designates 209.85.212.175 as permitted sender) Received: from [209.85.212.175] (HELO mail-px0-f175.google.com) (209.85.212.175) by apache.org (qpsmtpd/0.29) with ESMTP; Wed, 24 Nov 2010 14:03:10 +0000 Received: by pxi17 with SMTP id 17so2463691pxi.6 for ; Wed, 24 Nov 2010 06:02:49 -0800 (PST) DKIM-Signature: v=1; a=rsa-sha256; c=relaxed/relaxed; d=gmail.com; s=gamma; h=domainkey-signature:mime-version:received:received:in-reply-to :references:date:message-id:subject:from:to:content-type; bh=rgLBt0qg65vvdqDI8xQ3GWms2KUo+V8YN1DNoa439Ts=; b=JhsUMBBMWm5pl8GM7MUVG1hwsR81ONg70xJuATk5diRBPlji16ot4HR8/hDZwBVtWz 0oNTazSXwK3+F68SxWpguLyiWpxPdxFX3ZIwIL1ovVkVEl+AH9BpTnKp8pULa90Inn8Z zHYksAYTZKr5KeX5gUWjliZHXibXtwLXIba3o= DomainKey-Signature: a=rsa-sha1; c=nofws; d=gmail.com; s=gamma; h=mime-version:in-reply-to:references:date:message-id:subject:from:to :content-type; b=wY6F030rEE2ndWtRBq6owG7MDsKsBsJrdmmcsC93izKXVTwWKJ9NpomWKB60U8BQEM /a4Qk2T3rq6Egmowak09RV/S0bJAnve43YxKiO+8UaEWe+pmtzMgjN+kocibvSt0O4b/ 4A+s6CjtUkK9VHsGGPaC0Tdm1s7PoWOJeZkJ8= MIME-Version: 1.0 Received: by 10.204.121.69 with SMTP id g5mr4531157bkr.125.1290607359137; Wed, 24 Nov 2010 06:02:39 -0800 (PST) Received: by 10.204.141.11 with HTTP; Wed, 24 Nov 2010 06:02:38 -0800 (PST) In-Reply-To: References: <4CE587B2.237.985725@kevin.kmz.co.za> <4CE6562B.1060006@gmail.com> <152AF5A7-2A8B-4A39-9D3B-DE43204427C2@mycosystems.co.uk> <51B375C2-7F67-4211-9BE6-390D592B4185@oracle.com> <4CE6FCFD.4080500@it20one.at> <296D698A-F1B1-40D5-8D68-FCDADEF8AB53@jaguNET.com> <4CEA7EC1.60403@thoughtcraft.com> <5D71E9DE-DBE2-4701-976E-5F4EC257F322@jaguNET.com> Date: Wed, 24 Nov 2010 09:02:38 -0500 Message-ID: Subject: Re: [ISIS] Re: Conference call From: Benson Margulies To: general@incubator.apache.org Content-Type: text/plain; charset=UTF-8 X-Virus-Checked: Checked by ClamAV on apache.org On Wed, Nov 24, 2010 at 8:54 AM, Bernd Fondermann wrote: > On Mon, Nov 22, 2010 at 16:16, Benson Margulies wrote: >> I am nothing if not chronically disingenuous. >> >> My first concern in responding here is a process concern. As far as I >> can tell, the Incubator PMC has not formally voted to forbid the use >> of real-time communications in podlings. Absent such a vote, the use >> of these technologies is permitted, and it's up to the mentors to >> guide, monitor, and ring alarm bells, as needed. > > Concluding that in the absence of a vote everything is allowed is not correct. Bernd, I never wrote that 'everything is allowed.' I wrote that it's not forbidden, and that it's clear that existing projects are using it. I respect your advice, but I am not going to dictate this to the podling team. --benson --------------------------------------------------------------------- To unsubscribe, e-mail: general-unsubscribe@incubator.apache.org For additional commands, e-mail: general-help@incubator.apache.org