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From Greg Stein <gst...@gmail.com>
Subject Re: Conference call
Date Fri, 19 Nov 2010 19:04:18 GMT
A full transcription shouldn't be necessary. Just bring a summary of
discussion points back to the list, along with any recommendations.
The list can then sort through it and make decisions.

We have off-list discussions all the time (IM, IRC, in-person). We
don't transcribe those. We just bring the discussion onto the list for
wrapping it up with everybody present. Skype concalls are no different
than these other forums.

Cheers,
-g

On Fri, Nov 19, 2010 at 13:18, Craig L Russell <craig.russell@oracle.com> wrote:
> My $0.02:
>
> The business of Apache is conducted on email.
>
> It's fine to have a periodic conference call among interested project
> participants, as long as (my list, not normative):
>
> no project or community member is excluded (e.g. by posting the call
> information only to a private list)
>
> no decisions are made during the call
>
> all topics discussed are subsequently posted via email to the project
> members
>
> Having an audio transcript is interesting but doesn't pass my email test. So
> I'd have to say that someone needs to transcribe the audio into email.
>
> Craig
>
> On Nov 19, 2010, at 9:29 AM, James Carman wrote:
>
>> I don't know about this.  Whatever we do has to be trackable and
>> "open", so I don't know about this Skype stuff.  Requiring folks to
>> watch a video or listen to an audio recording rather than reading a
>> transcript is probably not a good idea.  I'm copying the general list
>> to see what others have to say.
>>
>> On Fri, Nov 19, 2010 at 10:20 AM, Mohammad Nour El-Din
>> <nour.mohammad@gmail.com> wrote:
>>>
>>> Good idea
>>>
>>> +1 on the Skype monthly meeting.
>>>
>>> On Fri, Nov 19, 2010 at 11:14 AM, Alexander Krasnukhin
>>> <the.malkolm@gmail.com> wrote:
>>>>
>>>> At least it makes me feel ISIS is really going somewhere. I don't know
>>>> how
>>>> to explain this. E.g. there are some real ALIVE people involved :).
>>>>
>>>> Monthly is good.
>>>>
>>>> On Fri, Nov 19, 2010 at 12:05 PM, Mike Burton
>>>> <mikeb@mycosystems.co.uk>wrote:
>>>>
>>>>> Yes very useful interesting and enjoyable, thanks for organising it.
>>>>> Yes
>>>>> monthly similar would be good.
>>>>>
>>>>> Mike
>>>>>
>>>>> On 19 Nov 2010, at 10:49, Dan Haywood <dkhaywood@gmail.com> wrote:
>>>>>
>>>>>> First off, thanks to all for attending, and I really enjoyed the
>>>>>
>>>>> opportunity. Hope it was useful.  It was nice, actually, to read the
>>>>> transcript on the Skype IM call afterwards (I didn't get the oppo to
do
>>>>> that
>>>>> while I was demo'ing).
>>>>>>
>>>>>> Second, my apols that I didn't have the demo working.  Of course,
>>>>>> after
>>>>>
>>>>> the call finished I figured out the problem in about 2 minutes.  At
any
>>>>> rate, the details on running the demo for yourselves are on the
>>>>> "SmokeTest"
>>>>> page on the wiki [1].
>>>>>>
>>>>>> Third, per a recording, like Kevin I also recorded the call using
>>>>>
>>>>> CallGraph, though mine seems to have recorded ok.   It's about 92Mb,
>>>>> recorded it in stereo, and what Skype did is distribute the voices
>>>>> across
>>>>> the spectrum, which I think is quite nice.  Anyway, I've just uploaded
>>>>> it to
>>>>> my dropbox account and I'll post the URL on isis-private.  (If you
>>>>> aren't
>>>>> subscribed there, contact me directly).
>>>>>>
>>>>>> Lastly, it'd be nice to do a similar call like that now and again.
 We
>>>>>
>>>>> could perhaps set one up every month, attendance purely optional.
>>>>>  Thoughts?
>>>>>>
>>>>>> Cheers
>>>>>> Dan
>>>>>>
>>>>>> [1] https://cwiki.apache.org/ISIS/smoketest.html
>>>>>>
>>>>>> ~~~~~~~~~~~~~~
>>>>>>
>>>>>> On 18/11/2010 20:08, Kevin Meyer - KMZ wrote:
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>> Hi Dan,
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>> Thanks for organizing the call.
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>> I was not able to record the entire call - Of the 56 minutes
>>>>>>> captured, a
>>>>>>> lot of it is silence. I'm not sure if it is an issue with the
app or
>>>>>>> my
>>>>>>> machine.
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>> Anyway, thanks to all who participated, it was good to be able
to
>>>>>>> associate voices with the emails.
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>> Regards,
>>>>>>> Kevin
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>
>>>>>
>>>>
>>>>
>>>>
>>>> --
>>>> Regards,
>>>> Alexander
>>>>
>>>
>>>
>>>
>>> --
>>> Thanks
>>> - Mohammad Nour
>>>  Author of (WebSphere Application Server Community Edition 2.0 User
>>> Guide)
>>>  http://www.redbooks.ibm.com/abstracts/sg247585.html
>>> - LinkedIn: http://www.linkedin.com/in/mnour
>>> - Blog: http://tadabborat.blogspot.com
>>> ----
>>> "Life is like riding a bicycle. To keep your balance you must keep
>>> moving"
>>> - Albert Einstein
>>>
>>> "Writing clean code is what you must do in order to call yourself a
>>> professional. There is no reasonable excuse for doing anything less
>>> than your best."
>>> - Clean Code: A Handbook of Agile Software Craftsmanship
>>>
>>> "Stay hungry, stay foolish."
>>> - Steve Jobs
>>>
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