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From Craig L Russell <craig.russ...@oracle.com>
Subject Re: Conference call
Date Fri, 19 Nov 2010 21:52:37 GMT

On Nov 19, 2010, at 11:04 AM, Greg Stein wrote:

> A full transcription shouldn't be necessary.

I agree. Transcript is too strong for what I think needs to be done,  
which is...

> Just bring a summary of
> discussion points back to the list, along with any recommendations.
> The list can then sort through it and make decisions.

What you said. Not a transcript but a list of topics and discussion  
points which continue on list.

Craig
>
> We have off-list discussions all the time (IM, IRC, in-person). We
> don't transcribe those. We just bring the discussion onto the list for
> wrapping it up with everybody present. Skype concalls are no different
> than these other forums.
>
> Cheers,
> -g
>
> On Fri, Nov 19, 2010 at 13:18, Craig L Russell <craig.russell@oracle.com 
> > wrote:
>> My $0.02:
>>
>> The business of Apache is conducted on email.
>>
>> It's fine to have a periodic conference call among interested project
>> participants, as long as (my list, not normative):
>>
>> no project or community member is excluded (e.g. by posting the call
>> information only to a private list)
>>
>> no decisions are made during the call
>>
>> all topics discussed are subsequently posted via email to the project
>> members
>>
>> Having an audio transcript is interesting but doesn't pass my email  
>> test. So
>> I'd have to say that someone needs to transcribe the audio into  
>> email.
>>
>> Craig
>>
>> On Nov 19, 2010, at 9:29 AM, James Carman wrote:
>>
>>> I don't know about this.  Whatever we do has to be trackable and
>>> "open", so I don't know about this Skype stuff.  Requiring folks to
>>> watch a video or listen to an audio recording rather than reading a
>>> transcript is probably not a good idea.  I'm copying the general  
>>> list
>>> to see what others have to say.
>>>
>>> On Fri, Nov 19, 2010 at 10:20 AM, Mohammad Nour El-Din
>>> <nour.mohammad@gmail.com> wrote:
>>>>
>>>> Good idea
>>>>
>>>> +1 on the Skype monthly meeting.
>>>>
>>>> On Fri, Nov 19, 2010 at 11:14 AM, Alexander Krasnukhin
>>>> <the.malkolm@gmail.com> wrote:
>>>>>
>>>>> At least it makes me feel ISIS is really going somewhere. I  
>>>>> don't know
>>>>> how
>>>>> to explain this. E.g. there are some real ALIVE people  
>>>>> involved :).
>>>>>
>>>>> Monthly is good.
>>>>>
>>>>> On Fri, Nov 19, 2010 at 12:05 PM, Mike Burton
>>>>> <mikeb@mycosystems.co.uk>wrote:
>>>>>
>>>>>> Yes very useful interesting and enjoyable, thanks for  
>>>>>> organising it.
>>>>>> Yes
>>>>>> monthly similar would be good.
>>>>>>
>>>>>> Mike
>>>>>>
>>>>>> On 19 Nov 2010, at 10:49, Dan Haywood <dkhaywood@gmail.com>
 
>>>>>> wrote:
>>>>>>
>>>>>>> First off, thanks to all for attending, and I really enjoyed
the
>>>>>>
>>>>>> opportunity. Hope it was useful.  It was nice, actually, to  
>>>>>> read the
>>>>>> transcript on the Skype IM call afterwards (I didn't get the  
>>>>>> oppo to do
>>>>>> that
>>>>>> while I was demo'ing).
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>> Second, my apols that I didn't have the demo working.  Of  
>>>>>>> course,
>>>>>>> after
>>>>>>
>>>>>> the call finished I figured out the problem in about 2  
>>>>>> minutes.  At any
>>>>>> rate, the details on running the demo for yourselves are on the
>>>>>> "SmokeTest"
>>>>>> page on the wiki [1].
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>> Third, per a recording, like Kevin I also recorded the call 

>>>>>>> using
>>>>>>
>>>>>> CallGraph, though mine seems to have recorded ok.   It's about  
>>>>>> 92Mb,
>>>>>> recorded it in stereo, and what Skype did is distribute the  
>>>>>> voices
>>>>>> across
>>>>>> the spectrum, which I think is quite nice.  Anyway, I've just  
>>>>>> uploaded
>>>>>> it to
>>>>>> my dropbox account and I'll post the URL on isis-private.  (If  
>>>>>> you
>>>>>> aren't
>>>>>> subscribed there, contact me directly).
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>> Lastly, it'd be nice to do a similar call like that now and 

>>>>>>> again.  We
>>>>>>
>>>>>> could perhaps set one up every month, attendance purely optional.
>>>>>>  Thoughts?
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>> Cheers
>>>>>>> Dan
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>> [1] https://cwiki.apache.org/ISIS/smoketest.html
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>> ~~~~~~~~~~~~~~
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>> On 18/11/2010 20:08, Kevin Meyer - KMZ wrote:
>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>> Hi Dan,
>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>> Thanks for organizing the call.
>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>> I was not able to record the entire call - Of the 56 minutes
>>>>>>>> captured, a
>>>>>>>> lot of it is silence. I'm not sure if it is an issue with
the  
>>>>>>>> app or
>>>>>>>> my
>>>>>>>> machine.
>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>> Anyway, thanks to all who participated, it was good to be
 
>>>>>>>> able to
>>>>>>>> associate voices with the emails.
>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>> Regards,
>>>>>>>> Kevin
>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>
>>>>>
>>>>>
>>>>>
>>>>> --
>>>>> Regards,
>>>>> Alexander
>>>>>
>>>>
>>>>
>>>>
>>>> --
>>>> Thanks
>>>> - Mohammad Nour
>>>>  Author of (WebSphere Application Server Community Edition 2.0 User
>>>> Guide)
>>>>  http://www.redbooks.ibm.com/abstracts/sg247585.html
>>>> - LinkedIn: http://www.linkedin.com/in/mnour
>>>> - Blog: http://tadabborat.blogspot.com
>>>> ----
>>>> "Life is like riding a bicycle. To keep your balance you must keep
>>>> moving"
>>>> - Albert Einstein
>>>>
>>>> "Writing clean code is what you must do in order to call yourself a
>>>> professional. There is no reasonable excuse for doing anything less
>>>> than your best."
>>>> - Clean Code: A Handbook of Agile Software Craftsmanship
>>>>
>>>> "Stay hungry, stay foolish."
>>>> - Steve Jobs
>>>>
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>> Craig L Russell
>> Architect, Oracle
>> http://db.apache.org/jdo
>> 408 276-5638 mailto:Craig.Russell@oracle.com
>> P.S. A good JDO? O, Gasp!
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Craig L Russell
Architect, Oracle
http://db.apache.org/jdo
408 276-5638 mailto:Craig.Russell@oracle.com
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