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From Niclas Hedhman <nic...@hedhman.org>
Subject Re: Possible migration of the JXTA P2P framework project to ASF
Date Tue, 19 Oct 2010 00:53:37 GMT
In general, I would say that JXTA is more than welcome, if your
community thinks that is the best course of action. I would guess that
there is sufficient support in Incubator to bring you on as a podling.

I would presume that you have gone through the Incubator's docs,
especially http://incubator.apache.org/guides/proposal.html

In essence, securing a Champion is your first big challenge. Someone
that will guide the initial steps and creating the proposal. The
Champion might also help locating 3 Mentors, which will be the people
helping the community understand the Apache Way and how we operate at
a detailed level.

One question; Apache License 1.0?? (or more like 1.1?) Although it
allows sublicensing, if going sublicensing (to 2.0) I think you still
need to retain the 1.0/1.1 requirements, such as the license text in
the source. If you are working with Oracle on IP related to this, try
and get a grant to relicense their IP rights (now under 1.0/1.1) to
2.0... Shouldn't make a difference to them.

Cheers
Niclas

On Tue, Oct 19, 2010 at 1:11 AM, Jérôme Verstrynge <jverstry@gmail.com> wrote:
>  Hi,
>
> My name is Jérôme Verstrynge and I am new to this mailing list. I am the
> lead for the latest release of JXTA/JXSE (see jxse.kenai.com), the P2P
> framework project initiated by Sun Microsystem in 2001. Although JXTA/JXSE
> is still used by GlassFish, Sun has been reducing its commitment to JXTA in
> the past 2 years. This project is now supported by independant contributors
> from different companies only. Around 20 people contributed to the last
> release. We have enough material to initiate a new release process by the
> end of this year.
>
> Our main pain point is the lack of quality and performance of Java.net
> hosting. We have been investigating other solutions, including Kenai. To
> make a long story short, we initiated a transfer to Kenai, but since the
> Oracle aquisition, we have received no official confirmation about the
> future of Kenai. We have received unofficial information about their
> intentions, but in all cases, we should not expect something completely
> operational before another year. Their initial commitment to support the
> JXTA/JXSE transfert to Kenai is now systematically being postponed. We
> experience that we are at the bottom of their priority list and they are not
> capable of delivering upon their commitments.
>
> We have started discussions about the future governance of the project with
> our representative at Sun/Oracle. We will get definitive and official
> answers about Oracle's intentions regarding JXTA/JXSE this week. We
> anticipate they will end all commitments to the project.
>
> One option is to move to ASF. Early discussions with our Oracle/Sun
> representative revealed that Oracle won't block any fork of the project. We
> are currently under a modified Apache 1.0 license and would consider moving
> to the Apache 2.0 license. JXTA is a trademark from Sun/Oracle and we are
> not sure we will be able to secure its usage.
>
> I have been taking a look at ASF projects, including those in the incubator,
> and I can't find any P2P related project. My first question is: would ASF
> consider an application from the JXTA/JXSE community? The purpose of this
> email is to establish a first contact with you guys.
>
> This week, we will have a 'big' conference call with Oracle. Once official
> information is communicated, we'll probably have a community discussion
> followed by a vote about the future governance the JXTA/JXSE project. I am
> anticipating that ASF will be given the priority, which is why I send you
> this email.
>
> Cheers,
>
> Jérôme Verstrynge
>
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