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Date: Thu, 2 Sep 2010 00:16:11 -0700 (PDT)
From: Otis Gospodnetic <otis_gospodnetic@yahoo.com>
Subject: Re: Name change from "Lucene Connectors Framework" to "Apache
 Connectors Framework"
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Here's a non-abstract one:

- Apache Data (Source?) Connectors?

Perhaps "Data (Source)" would make it clear what this is about.

Otis


----- Original Message ----
> From: Benson Margulies <bimargulies@gmail.com>
> To: general@incubator.apache.org
> Sent: Mon, August 30, 2010 1:23:35 PM
> Subject: Re: Name change from "Lucene Connectors Framework" to "Apache 
>Connectors Framework"
> 
> It seems to me that the pivotal problem here is the word connector. On
> the  one hand, it could mean almost anything to almost anyone. On the
> other hand,  it has a specific denotation in the vicinity of httpd.
> Everything at Apache  is in the vicinity of httpd.
> 
> I'd offer the following 'made-up' options,  all following Apache:
> 
>   - manifold  (many  connections)
>   - omnivore (eats anything)
>   - rapunzel (spins  straw into gold)
>   - diogenes (seeking for something)
>   -  lantern (ditto)
>   - helium (fuel for Solr)
> 
> The whole question of  brand management strikes me as interesting: is
> it, in fact, the job of the  incubator PMC to groom the Apache branding
> portfolio by guiding new projects  towards better names? Is that in our
> charter, or should we, as Chris  suggests, defer to someone else for
> problems in this area.
> 
> 
> On Mon,  Aug 30, 2010 at 1:12 PM, Mattmann, Chris A (388J)
> <chris.a.mattmann@jpl.nasa.gov>  wrote:
> > Guys,
> >
> > If I may: since we're discussing marks,  why not post to trademarks@ and ask 
>Shane and crew to weigh in? Maybe you have  already, but if so, I haven't seen 
>that discussion mentioned over here on  general@incubator.
> >
> > Thanks!
> >
> > Cheers,
> >  Chris
> >
> >
> > On 8/30/10 10:03 AM, "Grant Ignersoll" <gsingers@apache.org>  wrote:
> >
> >
> >
> > On Aug 27, 2010, at 12:15 PM, David  Jencks wrote:
> >> To try to illustrate my thinking rather than push a  name down your 
>throat...
> >> Open  ConnectorFramework/OpenConnectorFramework/OpenCF  OK, since you've 
>added a  branding word.  Not ideal since the purpose appears overly broad
> >>  Content Connector Framework/ContentConnectorFramework/CCF OK, since you've  
>clarified the scope.  Not ideal since has no branding word.
> >>  OpenContentConnectorFramework/OpenCCF better since it clarifies the scope 
>and  includes a branding word.
> >
> > So, the word "open" somehow alleviates  your concern?  I don't get that.  If 
>your objection is that it comes across as  being _the_ Apache connector library, 
>then how does "Open" modulate that?  It's  still the Apache Open Connector 
>Framework.  It's still descriptive and still  implies it's the one.  Besides, 
>it's the ASF, isn't "Open" implied/redundant?   We would never have the Apache 
>Closed Connector Framework,  right?
> >
> > Likewise, the word Content implies the same "only"  status, albeit here I 
>will give you that it distinguishes it from Tomcat  Connector somewhat, although 
>the Tomcat Connector is just that, the Tomcat  connector.  However, I still 
>don't buy that it is a "branding" word.  Content is  pretty much meaningless. 
> Everything is content.  I have no doubt that we could  write a plugin for ACF 
>that connected to Tomcat and got Content out of it.   Heck, we already do. It's 
>called a web crawler.
> >
> > So, that leaves  us, in my mind w/ the option of some made up name or we 
>stick w/ ACF.  I'm all  for a made up one if someone comes up with one, I just 
>don't know what it is and  no one in the community seems to have one either. 
> ACF fits and the community  likes it.  It's not unprecedented at the ASF and I 
>don't think it is confusing  with Tomcat Connector.
> >
> > At any rate, the community would like  some resolution.  Should I just call 
>an official vote on ACF and if it loses  then we will go back to the drawing 
>board?
> >
> > -Grant
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