From general-return-26358-apmail-incubator-general-archive=incubator.apache.org@incubator.apache.org Thu Sep 09 14:19:31 2010 Return-Path: Delivered-To: apmail-incubator-general-archive@www.apache.org Received: (qmail 12496 invoked from network); 9 Sep 2010 14:19:30 -0000 Received: from unknown (HELO mail.apache.org) (140.211.11.3) by 140.211.11.9 with SMTP; 9 Sep 2010 14:19:30 -0000 Received: (qmail 33629 invoked by uid 500); 9 Sep 2010 14:19:29 -0000 Delivered-To: apmail-incubator-general-archive@incubator.apache.org Received: (qmail 32977 invoked by uid 500); 9 Sep 2010 14:19:26 -0000 Mailing-List: contact general-help@incubator.apache.org; run by ezmlm Precedence: bulk List-Help: List-Unsubscribe: List-Post: List-Id: Reply-To: general@incubator.apache.org Delivered-To: mailing list general@incubator.apache.org Received: (qmail 32969 invoked by uid 99); 9 Sep 2010 14:19:25 -0000 Received: from athena.apache.org (HELO athena.apache.org) (140.211.11.136) by apache.org (qpsmtpd/0.29) with ESMTP; Thu, 09 Sep 2010 14:19:25 +0000 X-ASF-Spam-Status: No, hits=0.0 required=10.0 tests=FREEMAIL_FROM,RCVD_IN_DNSWL_NONE,SPF_PASS,T_TO_NO_BRKTS_FREEMAIL X-Spam-Check-By: apache.org Received-SPF: pass (athena.apache.org: domain of nour.mohammad@gmail.com designates 74.125.83.175 as permitted sender) Received: from [74.125.83.175] (HELO mail-pv0-f175.google.com) (74.125.83.175) by apache.org (qpsmtpd/0.29) with ESMTP; Thu, 09 Sep 2010 14:19:20 +0000 Received: by pvg6 with SMTP id 6so521571pvg.6 for ; Thu, 09 Sep 2010 07:19:00 -0700 (PDT) DKIM-Signature: v=1; a=rsa-sha256; c=relaxed/relaxed; d=gmail.com; s=gamma; h=domainkey-signature:mime-version:received:received:in-reply-to :references:date:message-id:subject:from:to:content-type :content-transfer-encoding; bh=8HaXzAcXjHi7mELUV5OcIcu0GcODkxmbnb4gxU4WmhU=; b=SQtzbOTNcQHvYxA5uX8C8vzO85IP597EzMSalkI5rcPNXoojtKNJUW8RnvnM41nVfa yyGX7SCuuhTlwlLjEkAQ+Ggdopzt987OhGMxd66lV+VxLfs7+GczkdFJr85o7WuRD6zF ohG5KPYBSOVbZsjN2iKQhFnvlHWqWpRqVMCew= DomainKey-Signature: a=rsa-sha1; c=nofws; d=gmail.com; s=gamma; h=mime-version:in-reply-to:references:date:message-id:subject:from:to :content-type:content-transfer-encoding; b=BU3QjErvBvvbMqObhDUSev8Zu9dYLkLQCwgWa4Sxkq7M6eYUlnZFeYxI+Kxf0Ps+yH i7xJl/63A+Tj4KrogHZjKrAfvoubbq4m2fGiLDUi838+OKMESkqXMcxwooLCKPjDxIlp M0gzHpTQGX3G3arlWh/2WiczTR0sd/uIVVMm0= MIME-Version: 1.0 Received: by 10.142.249.2 with SMTP id w2mr2080wfh.186.1284041939926; Thu, 09 Sep 2010 07:18:59 -0700 (PDT) Received: by 10.231.157.199 with HTTP; Thu, 9 Sep 2010 07:18:59 -0700 (PDT) In-Reply-To: <4C887EBB.5090002@pidster.com> References: <4C887974.8040407@pidster.com> <4C887EBB.5090002@pidster.com> Date: Thu, 9 Sep 2010 16:18:59 +0200 Message-ID: Subject: Re: [PROPOSAL] Kitty to Enter the Incubator From: Mohammad Nour El-Din To: general@incubator.apache.org Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1 Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable +1 on the mailing lists issue. On Thu, Sep 9, 2010 at 8:29 AM, Pid wrote: > On 09/09/2010 07:15, Greg Stein wrote: >> Just to clarify: I'm assuming you're saying "+1 to the proposal", >> rather than to my comment. Correct? > > +1 indeed, to the proposal > > +1 actually, to the mailing list comment, too. > > The Incubator PMC might consider that establishing sufficient interest > which requires a user list is an indicator of a project approaching the > exit criteria, or at least, making substantial progress. > > > p > >> And to clarify for myself: I have no opinion on the proposal itself. I >> timed out after "Java" and the next few buzzwords. Thankfully, this >> proposal didn't say "framework" or I may have timed out after the >> first :-P ... my comments were focused on the community aspects around >> mailing list management, and successfully growing a lively and >> sustainable critical mass. >> >> Cheers, >> -g >> >> On Thu, Sep 9, 2010 at 02:06, Pid wrote: >>> +1 (non-binding) >>> >>> Small point: if a Mentor must be a Member, I can't be one, because I'm = not. >>> >>> >>> p >>> >>> On 08/09/2010 16:00, Mohammad Nour El-Din wrote: >>>> +1 (Notbinding) >>>> >>>> On Wed, Sep 8, 2010 at 7:22 AM, Greg Stein wrote: >>>>> On Tue, Sep 7, 2010 at 20:29, Matthew Sacks wrote: >>>>>> ... >>>>> >>>>>> *Mailing Lists* >>>>>> >>>>>> kitty-dev >>>>>> kitty-commits >>>>>> kitty-user >>>>>> >>>>> >>>>> Is there a large user community already? If not, then splitting the >>>>> community across dev/user does not make sense. You want to keep the u= sers >>>>> and developers on the same mailing list until one starts to overwhelm= the >>>>> other. By partitioning the lists too early, you risk never reaching >>>>> "critical mass" on *either* mailing list. >>>>> >>>>> Cheers, >>>>> -g >>>>> >>>> >>>> >>>> >>> >>> >> >> --------------------------------------------------------------------- >> To unsubscribe, e-mail: general-unsubscribe@incubator.apache.org >> For additional commands, e-mail: general-help@incubator.apache.org >> > > --=20 Thanks - Mohammad Nour =A0 Author of (WebSphere Application Server Community Edition 2.0 User Guid= e) =A0 http://www.redbooks.ibm.com/abstracts/sg247585.html - LinkedIn: http://www.linkedin.com/in/mnour - Blog: http://tadabborat.blogspot.com ---- "Life is like riding a bicycle. To keep your balance you must keep moving" - Albert Einstein "Writing clean code is what you must do in order to call yourself a professional. 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