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From dan haywood <...@haywood-associates.co.uk>
Subject Re: No dev-, user- lists for small podlings (was: Re: [PROPOSAL] Kitty to Enter the Incubator)
Date Wed, 08 Sep 2010 11:39:47 GMT
On 8 September 2010 12:19, Robert Matthews <rmatthews@nakedobjects.org>wrote:

> One point against this is that we have had a long-standing user list, ...
>


> ... People are used to
> the user list already.


 We do, but it's going to change anyway when we make the apache mailing list
available.



> If we are going to combine the two then I
> suggest we have a -user list now and let the developers grow out of
> that.
>

I disagree; I think we should follow the precedents on other projects
(Sling, OWB, MyFaces).

For the moment at least the dev community is more active (or at least more
vocal), so their mailing list should be the main focal point.  As I said in
the other email, when we have more user traffic than dev traffic, then
we can vote to split them out.

And another benefit of putting user traffic on the dev list is that
it'll give the devs exposure to any probs that regular users are having with
actually using the framework (ie so we can mature its documentation etc)

Dan



>
> Rob
>
> On Wed, 2010-09-08 at 08:16 +0100, Dan Haywood wrote:
> > Isis mentors:
> > Given we're in the same situation and are still being bootstrapped,
> > should we follow this advice, ie start off with a combined mailing list
> > for -dev and -user?
> > Dan
> >
> > On 08/09/2010 08:10, Martijn Dashorst wrote:
> > > On Wed, Sep 8, 2010 at 7:22 AM, Greg Stein<gstein@gmail.com>  wrote:
> > >> On Tue, Sep 7, 2010 at 20:29, Matthew Sacks<matthew@matthewsacks.com
> >wrote:
> > >>> ...
> > >>> *Mailing Lists*
> > >>>
> > >>> kitty-dev
> > >>> kitty-commits
> > >>> kitty-user
> > >>>
> > >> Is there a large user community already? If not, then splitting the
> > >> community across dev/user does not make sense. You want to keep the
> users
> > >> and developers on the same mailing list until one starts to overwhelm
> the
> > >> other. By partitioning the lists too early, you risk never reaching
> > >> "critical mass" on *either* mailing list.
> > > This is actually great advice, and I wish we'd done this with a couple
> > > of podlings that are currently too small to graduate.
> > >
> > > In retrospect empire-db and etch really could have done without the
> > > user- list IMO.
> > >
> > > Martijn
> >
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