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From Benson Margulies <bimargul...@gmail.com>
Subject Re: HISE community needs to grow
Date Sun, 26 Sep 2010 02:02:16 GMT
Rafal,

If the PPMC is dormant, then there is a much more serious problem with
the podling then needing to vote some committers. I do not believe
that the incubator will add committers based on a request from a
non-PPMC committer, however carefully prepared. There has to be a PPMC
vote, which means that there has to be a PPMC.

I think we need the existing mentors to join this discussion. The HISE
project page is not encouraging reading, given the lack of status
reports and the many unfilled boxes. I think we can count on the
mentors to at least respond to this thread.

If the original group have all wandered away, then it might be
sensible to reconstitute the podling around you and the active people
you have identified, however there will be an extensive discussion
here, I think, to arrive at that outcome.

--benson


On Sat, Sep 25, 2010 at 9:56 PM, Rafal Rusin <rafal.rusin@gmail.com> wrote:
> On 25 September 2010 18:47, Benson Margulies <bimargulies@gmail.com> wrote:
>> Rafal,
>>
>> Your message doesn't make sense to me. 'blind'? All the PPMC members
>> of the project should be on the hise-private mailing list, and should
>> be involved in the discussion about a proposed new committer. Once the
>> PPMC decides that they want to add a committer, a vote then has to run
>> on the incubator PMC list (except for those podlings in Joe S's
>> experiment) to get formal approval. Typically, as I understand it, the
>> PPMC votes to go ahead and ask for an Incubator PMC vote.
>>
>> Does HISE distinguish podling committers from PPMC members?
>>
>> Note that I am not subscribed to any hise- lists so this message will
>> go into moderation there.
>>
>> --benson
>
> Yes, HISE distinguishes PPMC members from committers.
> The problem is that for example I am a committer, not PPMC member and
> I don't have access to hise-private (that's why I've sent blind
> request there to start vote). On the other hand, we have no response
> from existing PPMC members.
>
>>
>>
>> On Sat, Sep 25, 2010 at 9:42 PM, Rafal Rusin <rafal.rusin@gmail.com> wrote:
>>> On 25 September 2010 17:57, Luciano Resende <luckbr1975@gmail.com> wrote:
>>>> On Sat, Sep 25, 2010 at 3:36 PM, Rafal Rusin <rafal.rusin@gmail.com>
wrote:
>>>>> Hello,
>>>>>
>>>>> I submitted a month ago blind request to hise-private to start vote to
>>>>> make Paweł Byszewski a committer. Since then, I haven't got any
>>>>> response.
>>>>> Since HISE committers community needs to grow, I'm asking for
>>>>> potential new mentors willing to join hise-private list in HISE
>>>>> project (http://incubator.apache.org/hise/).
>>>>
>>>> Any reason for no votes from any of the existent committers ? The Hise
>>>> project page mentions 7 existent committers [1].
>>>>
>>>> http://incubator.apache.org/projects/hise.html
>>>
>>> This is good question. As I understand procedure for nominating
>>> committers for podlings, blind request to hise-private needs to be
>>> sent and then mentors decide during voting. Existing committers don't
>>> play role here. That's why we haven't started any voting on hise-dev.
>>>
>>>
>>>>
>>>>>
>>>>> Currently we have 3 candidates to vote (Piotr Zagórski, Paweł
>>>>> Byszewski, Michał Więcław), who made substantial contributions to
the
>>>>> project.
>>>>> We also have a fresh new candidate Akhilesh Singh, who currently made
>>>>> 4 committed patches and looks very promising to become new committer.
>>>>>
>>>>
>>>> I'd recommend discussing personnel related stuff in the private AT
>>>> incubator DOT apache DOT org
>>>
>>> OK, thanks.
>>>
>>>>
>>>>
>>>>
>>>> --
>>>> Luciano Resende
>>>> http://people.apache.org/~lresende
>>>> http://twitter.com/lresende1975
>>>> http://lresende.blogspot.com/
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>>>
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>>> Rafał Rusin
>>> http://rrusin.blogspot.com
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>
>
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> Regards,
> Rafał Rusin
> http://rrusin.blogspot.com
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