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From Benson Margulies <bimargul...@gmail.com>
Subject Re: HISE community needs to grow
Date Sun, 26 Sep 2010 02:30:02 GMT
Certainly. I didn't mean to imply any sort of instant action, I was
just trying to clarify the policy question.

On Sat, Sep 25, 2010 at 10:26 PM, Joe Schaefer <joe_schaefer@yahoo.com> wrote:
> Give Matthew Riou and Glen Daniels time to reply before
> "fixing" this please.
>
>
>
>
> ----- Original Message ----
>> From: Benson Margulies <bimargulies@gmail.com>
>> To: general@incubator.apache.org
>> Sent: Sat, September 25, 2010 10:24:58 PM
>> Subject: Re: HISE community needs to grow
>>
>> On Sat, Sep 25, 2010 at 10:22 PM, Joe Schaefer <joe_schaefer@yahoo.com>
> wrote:
>> > NFI.  Not something I would've done.
>>
>> So my view is that  the vote to establish the podling, accepting the
>> proposal that is sitting on  the Wiki, convened that group as the
>> initial PPMC. Oh fellow integrator PMC  members, do we need another
>> vote to fix this, or can someone just  repair?
>>
>>
>> >
>> >
>> >
>> > ----- Original Message  ----
>> >> From: Benson Margulies <bimargulies@gmail.com>
>> >>  To: general@incubator.apache.org
>> >>  Sent: Sat, September 25, 2010 10:20:23 PM
>> >> Subject: Re: HISE  community needs to grow
>> >>
>> >> On Sat, Sep 25, 2010 at 10:06  PM, Joe Schaefer <joe_schaefer@yahoo.com>
>> >  wrote:
>> >> > None of the committers on hise are on the private list.    It's
>> >> > manned by 2 mentors only.
>> >>
>> >>  Joe,
>> >>
>> >> How did that happen?  I thought that the initial  PPMC was always loaded
>> >> with the initial non-mentor  committers.  Shouldn't all of the following
>> >> people from the original proposal  be  loaded onto private and declared
>> >> the PPMC  retroactively?
>> >>
>> >> Jakub  Kurlenda <jkr@touk.pl>
>> >> Mateusz Lipczyński  <mlp@touk.pl>
>> >> Michał Zalewski <mzl@touk.pl>
>> >> Rafał Rusin <rr@apache.org>
>> >> Ula Trzaskowska  <utr@touk.pl>
>> >> Warren Crossing <wcr@touk.pl>
>> >> Witek Wołejszo <ww@touk.pl>
>> >>
>> >>  --benson
>> >>
>> >>
>> >>  That  should be fixed asap-  you've
>> >> > personally done more than enough work on  hise to be on  the pmc.
>> >> >
>> >> >
>> >> >
>> >>  >
>> >> > ----- Original  Message ----
>> >> >> From:  Rafal Rusin <rafal.rusin@gmail.com>
>> >>  >>  To: general@incubator.apache.org
>> >>  >>  Sent: Sat, September 25, 2010 9:56:41 PM
>> >> >>  Subject: Re: HISE  community needs to grow
>> >> >>
>> >>  >> On 25 September 2010 18:47,  Benson Margulies <bimargulies@gmail.com>
>> >>wrote:
>> >>  >> >  Rafal,
>> >> >> >
>> >> >> > Your  message  doesn't make sense to me. 'blind'? All the
 PPMC
> members
>> >>  >> > of the  project should be on the hise-private mailing list,
 and
>>should
>> >> >> >  be involved in the discussion about a proposed  new committer.
 Once
>> the
>> >> >> > PPMC decides that they want  to add a committer, a vote then
 has  to
>>run
>> >> >> > on the  incubator PMC list (except for those  podlings in
Joe  S's
>> >> >>  > experiment) to get formal approval.  Typically, as I understand
it,
>> the
>> >> >> > PPMC votes to go ahead and  ask for an Incubator  PMC  vote.
>> >> >> >
>> >> >> > Does HISE   distinguish podling committers from PPMC  members?
>> >> >>  >
>> >> >>  > Note that I am not subscribed to any hise- lists  so  this
message
>> will
>> >> >> > go into moderation  there.
>> >> >> >
>> >> >>  >   --benson
>> >> >>
>> >> >> Yes, HISE distinguishes PPMC  members from  committers.
>> >> >> The  problem is that for example  I am a committer, not  PPMC
member and
>> >> >> I don't  have access  to hise-private (that's why  I've sent
blind
>> >> >> request there  to  start vote). On the other hand, we  have
no response
>> >> >>  from existing PPMC   members.
>> >> >>
>> >> >>  >
>> >> >> >
>> >> >> > On Sat,  Sep 25, 2010  at 9:42 PM, Rafal  Rusin
> <rafal.rusin@gmail.com>
>> >>  >  wrote:
>> >> >> >> On 25 September 2010 17:57, Luciano  Resende <luckbr1975@gmail.com>
>> >>  wrote:
>> >> >> >>> On Sat, Sep 25, 2010 at 3:36 PM, Rafal  Rusin
>> <rafal.rusin@gmail.com>
>> >>  >>wrote:
>> >> >>  >>>> Hello,
>> >>  >> >>>>
>> >> >>  >>>> I  submitted a  month ago blind request to
hise-private to start
>> vote
>> >>  to
>> >> >> >>>> make Paweł Byszewski a committer. Since   then,
I haven't  got any
>> >> >> >>>>  response.
>> >> >>  >>>> Since HISE committers   community needs to
grow, I'm asking  for
>> >> >> >>>>  potential new  mentors willing to join  hise-private
list in HISE
>> >>  >> >>>> project    (http://incubator.apache.org/hise/).
>> >> >>  >>>
>> >> >>  >>> Any reason  for no votes from  any of the existent
committers ? The
>> >>Hise
>> >> >>  >>>  project page mentions 7 existent committers  [1].
>> >>  >> >>>
>> >> >> >>>    http://incubator.apache.org/projects/hise.html
>> >> >>  >>
>> >> >>  >> This is  good question. As I understand  procedure
for  nominating
>> >> >> >> committers  for  podlings, blind request to  hise-private
needs to be
>> >> >>  >> sent and  then mentors decide  during voting. Existing
committers
>>don't
>> >> >> >> play  role here.  That's why we haven't  started any
voting on
>> hise-dev.
>> >> >>  >>
>> >>  >> >>
>> >> >> >>>
>> >> >>   >>>>
>> >> >> >>>>  Currently we have 3  candidates to  vote (Piotr
Zagórski,  Paweł
>> >> >>  >>>> Byszewski, Michał  Więcław), who made substantial
  contributions
>>to
>> > the
>> >> >>  >>>>  project.
>> >> >> >>>> We also  have a fresh new   candidate Akhilesh
Singh, who currently
>> >> made
>> >> >>  >>>> 4  committed patches and looks very promising
to become   new
>> > committer.
>> >> >>  >>>>
>> >>  >> >>>
>> >> >> >>> I'd recommend    discussing personnel related stuff
in the private
> AT
>> >> >>  >>>  incubator  DOT apache DOT org
>> >> >>  >>
>> >> >> >> OK,   thanks.
>> >> >>  >>
>> >> >> >>>
>> >> >>   >>>
>> >> >> >>>
>> >> >>  >>>  --
>> >> >>  >>> Luciano Resende
>> >>  >> >>>   http://people.apache.org/~lresende
>> >> >>  >>>   http://twitter.com/lresende1975
>> >> >> >>>    http://lresende.blogspot.com/
>> >> >> >>>
>> >>  >> >>>
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>> >> >> >>   --
>> >> >> >>  Regards,
>> >> >> >> Rafał Rusin
>> >> >>   >>  http://rrusin.blogspot.com
>> >> >> >>
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>> >> >>  Regards,
>> >> >> Rafał Rusin
>> >> >> http://rrusin.blogspot.com
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