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From Benson Margulies <bimargul...@gmail.com>
Subject Re: HISE community needs to grow
Date Sun, 26 Sep 2010 02:24:58 GMT
On Sat, Sep 25, 2010 at 10:22 PM, Joe Schaefer <joe_schaefer@yahoo.com> wrote:
> NFI.  Not something I would've done.

So my view is that the vote to establish the podling, accepting the
proposal that is sitting on the Wiki, convened that group as the
initial PPMC. Oh fellow integrator PMC members, do we need another
vote to fix this, or can someone just repair?


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>
>
> ----- Original Message ----
>> From: Benson Margulies <bimargulies@gmail.com>
>> To: general@incubator.apache.org
>> Sent: Sat, September 25, 2010 10:20:23 PM
>> Subject: Re: HISE community needs to grow
>>
>> On Sat, Sep 25, 2010 at 10:06 PM, Joe Schaefer <joe_schaefer@yahoo.com>
> wrote:
>> > None of the committers on hise are on the private list.   It's
>> > manned by 2 mentors only.
>>
>> Joe,
>>
>> How did that happen?  I thought that the initial PPMC was always loaded
>> with the initial non-mentor  committers. Shouldn't all of the following
>> people from the original proposal  be loaded onto private and declared
>> the PPMC retroactively?
>>
>> Jakub  Kurlenda <jkr@touk.pl>
>> Mateusz Lipczyński <mlp@touk.pl>
>> Michał Zalewski <mzl@touk.pl>
>> Rafał Rusin <rr@apache.org>
>> Ula Trzaskowska <utr@touk.pl>
>> Warren Crossing <wcr@touk.pl>
>> Witek Wołejszo <ww@touk.pl>
>>
>> --benson
>>
>>
>>  That  should be fixed asap- you've
>> > personally done more than enough work on  hise to be on the pmc.
>> >
>> >
>> >
>> >
>> > ----- Original  Message ----
>> >> From: Rafal Rusin <rafal.rusin@gmail.com>
>> >>  To: general@incubator.apache.org
>> >>  Sent: Sat, September 25, 2010 9:56:41 PM
>> >> Subject: Re: HISE  community needs to grow
>> >>
>> >> On 25 September 2010 18:47,  Benson Margulies <bimargulies@gmail.com>
>>wrote:
>> >> >  Rafal,
>> >> >
>> >> > Your message  doesn't make sense to me. 'blind'? All the  PPMC members
>> >> > of the  project should be on the hise-private mailing list,  and
should
>> >> >  be involved in the discussion about a proposed new committer.  Once
 the
>> >> > PPMC decides that they want to add a committer, a vote then  has  to
run
>> >> > on the incubator PMC list (except for those  podlings in Joe  S's
>> >> > experiment) to get formal approval.  Typically, as I understand it,
 the
>> >> > PPMC votes to go ahead and  ask for an Incubator PMC  vote.
>> >> >
>> >> > Does HISE  distinguish podling committers from PPMC  members?
>> >> >
>> >>  > Note that I am not subscribed to any hise- lists so  this message
 will
>> >> > go into moderation there.
>> >> >
>> >>  >  --benson
>> >>
>> >> Yes, HISE distinguishes PPMC members from  committers.
>> >> The  problem is that for example I am a committer, not  PPMC member and
>> >> I don't  have access to hise-private (that's why  I've sent blind
>> >> request there to  start vote). On the other hand, we  have no response
>> >> from existing PPMC   members.
>> >>
>> >> >
>> >> >
>> >> > On Sat,  Sep 25, 2010 at 9:42 PM, Rafal  Rusin <rafal.rusin@gmail.com>
>> >  wrote:
>> >> >> On 25 September 2010 17:57, Luciano Resende <luckbr1975@gmail.com>
>> wrote:
>> >> >>> On Sat, Sep 25, 2010 at 3:36 PM, Rafal Rusin  <rafal.rusin@gmail.com>
>> >>wrote:
>> >>  >>>> Hello,
>> >> >>>>
>> >>  >>>> I  submitted a month ago blind request to hise-private
to start  vote
>> to
>> >> >>>> make Paweł Byszewski a committer. Since  then, I haven't
 got any
>> >> >>>> response.
>> >>  >>>> Since HISE committers  community needs to grow, I'm
asking  for
>> >> >>>> potential new  mentors willing to join  hise-private
list in HISE
>> >> >>>> project   (http://incubator.apache.org/hise/).
>> >> >>>
>> >>  >>> Any reason  for no votes from any of the existent committers
? The
>>Hise
>> >> >>>  project page mentions 7 existent committers  [1].
>> >> >>>
>> >> >>>   http://incubator.apache.org/projects/hise.html
>> >> >>
>> >>  >> This is  good question. As I understand procedure for  nominating
>> >> >> committers  for podlings, blind request to  hise-private needs
to be
>> >> >> sent and  then mentors decide  during voting. Existing committers
don't
>> >> >> play  role here.  That's why we haven't started any voting on
 hise-dev.
>> >>  >>
>> >> >>
>> >> >>>
>> >>  >>>>
>> >> >>>>  Currently we have 3 candidates to  vote (Piotr Zagórski,
 Paweł
>> >> >>>> Byszewski, Michał  Więcław), who made substantial  contributions
to
> the
>> >>  >>>> project.
>> >> >>>> We also  have a fresh new  candidate Akhilesh Singh,
who currently
>> made
>> >> >>>> 4  committed patches and looks very promising to become
 new
> committer.
>> >>  >>>>
>> >> >>>
>> >> >>> I'd recommend   discussing personnel related stuff in the
private AT
>> >> >>>  incubator  DOT apache DOT org
>> >> >>
>> >> >> OK,   thanks.
>> >> >>
>> >> >>>
>> >>  >>>
>> >> >>>
>> >> >>>  --
>> >>  >>> Luciano Resende
>> >> >>>   http://people.apache.org/~lresende
>> >> >>>   http://twitter.com/lresende1975
>> >> >>>   http://lresende.blogspot.com/
>> >> >>>
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>> >> >>
>> >> >>   --
>> >> >> Regards,
>> >> >> Rafał Rusin
>> >>  >>  http://rrusin.blogspot.com
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>> >>  --
>> >> Regards,
>> >> Rafał Rusin
>> >> http://rrusin.blogspot.com
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