It's not a policy question. Mentors have some discretion
in how they organize a community initially. This is probably
just some oversight in that process. It'll get sorted eventually,
but the ASF doesn't operate on instantaneous timetables.
----- Original Message ----
> From: Benson Margulies <bimargulies@gmail.com>
> To: general@incubator.apache.org
> Sent: Sat, September 25, 2010 10:30:02 PM
> Subject: Re: HISE community needs to grow
>
> Certainly. I didn't mean to imply any sort of instant action, I was
> just trying to clarify the policy question.
>
> On Sat, Sep 25, 2010 at 10:26 PM, Joe Schaefer <joe_schaefer@yahoo.com>
>wrote:
> > Give Matthew Riou and Glen Daniels time to reply before
> > "fixing" this please.
> >
> >
> >
> >
> > ----- Original Message ----
> >> From: Benson Margulies <bimargulies@gmail.com>
> >> To: general@incubator.apache.org
> >> Sent: Sat, September 25, 2010 10:24:58 PM
> >> Subject: Re: HISE community needs to grow
> >>
> >> On Sat, Sep 25, 2010 at 10:22 PM, Joe Schaefer <joe_schaefer@yahoo.com>
> > wrote:
> >> > NFI. Not something I would've done.
> >>
> >> So my view is that the vote to establish the podling, accepting the
> >> proposal that is sitting on the Wiki, convened that group as the
> >> initial PPMC. Oh fellow integrator PMC members, do we need another
> >> vote to fix this, or can someone just repair?
> >>
> >>
> >> >
> >> >
> >> >
> >> > ----- Original Message ----
> >> >> From: Benson Margulies <bimargulies@gmail.com>
> >> >> To: general@incubator.apache.org
> >> >> Sent: Sat, September 25, 2010 10:20:23 PM
> >> >> Subject: Re: HISE community needs to grow
> >> >>
> >> >> On Sat, Sep 25, 2010 at 10:06 PM, Joe Schaefer
<joe_schaefer@yahoo.com>
> >> > wrote:
> >> >> > None of the committers on hise are on the private list. It's
> >> >> > manned by 2 mentors only.
> >> >>
> >> >> Joe,
> >> >>
> >> >> How did that happen? I thought that the initial PPMC was always
loaded
> >> >> with the initial non-mentor committers. Shouldn't all of the
following
> >> >> people from the original proposal be loaded onto private and declared
> >> >> the PPMC retroactively?
> >> >>
> >> >> Jakub Kurlenda <jkr@touk.pl>
> >> >> Mateusz Lipczyński <mlp@touk.pl>
> >> >> Michał Zalewski <mzl@touk.pl>
> >> >> Rafał Rusin <rr@apache.org>
> >> >> Ula Trzaskowska <utr@touk.pl>
> >> >> Warren Crossing <wcr@touk.pl>
> >> >> Witek Wołejszo <ww@touk.pl>
> >> >>
> >> >> --benson
> >> >>
> >> >>
> >> >> That should be fixed asap- you've
> >> >> > personally done more than enough work on hise to be on the
pmc.
> >> >> >
> >> >> >
> >> >> >
> >> >> >
> >> >> > ----- Original Message ----
> >> >> >> From: Rafal Rusin <rafal.rusin@gmail.com>
> >> >> >> To: general@incubator.apache.org
> >> >> >> Sent: Sat, September 25, 2010 9:56:41 PM
> >> >> >> Subject: Re: HISE community needs to grow
> >> >> >>
> >> >> >> On 25 September 2010 18:47, Benson Margulies
><bimargulies@gmail.com>
> >> >>wrote:
> >> >> >> > Rafal,
> >> >> >> >
> >> >> >> > Your message doesn't make sense to me. 'blind'? All
the PPMC
> > members
> >> >> >> > of the project should be on the hise-private mailing
list, and
> >>should
> >> >> >> > be involved in the discussion about a proposed new
committer.
> Once
> >> the
> >> >> >> > PPMC decides that they want to add a committer, a vote
then has
> to
> >>run
> >> >> >> > on the incubator PMC list (except for those podlings
in Joe S's
> >> >> >> > experiment) to get formal approval. Typically, as
I understand
>it,
> >> the
> >> >> >> > PPMC votes to go ahead and ask for an Incubator PMC
vote.
> >> >> >> >
> >> >> >> > Does HISE distinguish podling committers from PPMC
members?
> >> >> >> >
> >> >> >> > Note that I am not subscribed to any hise- lists so
this
>message
> >> will
> >> >> >> > go into moderation there.
> >> >> >> >
> >> >> >> > --benson
> >> >> >>
> >> >> >> Yes, HISE distinguishes PPMC members from committers.
> >> >> >> The problem is that for example I am a committer, not
PPMC member
>and
> >> >> >> I don't have access to hise-private (that's why I've sent
blind
> >> >> >> request there to start vote). On the other hand, we have
no
>response
> >> >> >> from existing PPMC members.
> >> >> >>
> >> >> >> >
> >> >> >> >
> >> >> >> > On Sat, Sep 25, 2010 at 9:42 PM, Rafal Rusin
> > <rafal.rusin@gmail.com>
> >> >> > wrote:
> >> >> >> >> On 25 September 2010 17:57, Luciano Resende
><luckbr1975@gmail.com>
> >> >> wrote:
> >> >> >> >>> On Sat, Sep 25, 2010 at 3:36 PM, Rafal Rusin
> >> <rafal.rusin@gmail.com>
> >> >> >>wrote:
> >> >> >> >>>> Hello,
> >> >> >> >>>>
> >> >> >> >>>> I submitted a month ago blind request
to hise-private to
>start
> >> vote
> >> >> to
> >> >> >> >>>> make Paweł Byszewski a committer. Since
then, I haven't got
>any
> >> >> >> >>>> response.
> >> >> >> >>>> Since HISE committers community needs
to grow, I'm asking
> for
> >> >> >> >>>> potential new mentors willing to join
hise-private list in
>HISE
> >> >> >> >>>> project (http://incubator.apache.org/hise/).
> >> >> >> >>>
> >> >> >> >>> Any reason for no votes from any of the existent
committers ?
>The
> >> >>Hise
> >> >> >> >>> project page mentions 7 existent committers
[1].
> >> >> >> >>>
> >> >> >> >>> http://incubator.apache.org/projects/hise.html
> >> >> >> >>
> >> >> >> >> This is good question. As I understand procedure
for
> nominating
> >> >> >> >> committers for podlings, blind request to hise-private
needs to
>be
> >> >> >> >> sent and then mentors decide during voting. Existing
committers
> >>don't
> >> >> >> >> play role here. That's why we haven't started
any voting on
> >> hise-dev.
> >> >> >> >>
> >> >> >> >>
> >> >> >> >>>
> >> >> >> >>>>
> >> >> >> >>>> Currently we have 3 candidates to vote
(Piotr Zagórski,
> Paweł
> >> >> >> >>>> Byszewski, Michał Więcław), who made
substantial
>contributions
> >>to
> >> > the
> >> >> >> >>>> project.
> >> >> >> >>>> We also have a fresh new candidate Akhilesh
Singh, who
>currently
> >> >> made
> >> >> >> >>>> 4 committed patches and looks very promising
to become new
> >> > committer.
> >> >> >> >>>>
> >> >> >> >>>
> >> >> >> >>> I'd recommend discussing personnel related
stuff in the
>private
> > AT
> >> >> >> >>> incubator DOT apache DOT org
> >> >> >> >>
> >> >> >> >> OK, thanks.
> >> >> >> >>
> >> >> >> >>>
> >> >> >> >>>
> >> >> >> >>>
> >> >> >> >>> --
> >> >> >> >>> Luciano Resende
> >> >> >> >>> http://people.apache.org/~lresende
> >> >> >> >>> http://twitter.com/lresende1975
> >> >> >> >>> http://lresende.blogspot.com/
> >> >> >> >>>
> >> >> >> >>>
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> >> >> >> >>
> >> >> >> >> --
> >> >> >> >> Regards,
> >> >> >> >> Rafał Rusin
> >> >> >> >> http://rrusin.blogspot.com
> >> >> >> >>
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> >> >> >> --
> >> >> >> Regards,
> >> >> >> Rafał Rusin
> >> >> >> http://rrusin.blogspot.com
> >> >> >>
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