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From Mark Struberg <strub...@yahoo.de>
Subject Re: Role of Incubator PMC Votes
Date Fri, 10 Sep 2010 12:18:21 GMT
another small comment: if folks only like to get an opinion, then don't call a [VOTE] but instead
a [DISCUSS] opinion poll.

Because a vote is a vote is a vote...

LieGrue,
strub

--- On Fri, 9/10/10, James Carman <james@carmanconsulting.com> wrote:

> From: James Carman <james@carmanconsulting.com>
> Subject: Re: Role of Incubator PMC Votes
> To: general@incubator.apache.org
> Date: Friday, September 10, 2010, 10:53 AM
> On Fri, Sep 10, 2010 at 6:32 AM, Tim
> Williams <williamstw@gmail.com>
> wrote:
> >
> > That vote is majority rules, so the IPMC could in
> effect overrule the
> > project - the "preference/opinion" had already
> previously been
> > gathered.  In any case, I was using that instance to
> ask the broader
> > question of why we (IPMC) get binding votes on project
> matters.  It
> > seems to me that the healthy thing to do is closer to
> the board model
> > where we trust projects to do the right thing, ask for
> an ack, and
> > then only challenge the project on the basis of a
> > legal/release/trademark/etc issue.
> >
> > If we tell the projects that you have to re-vote with
> the peanut
> > gallery, then the peanut gallery effect is
> predictable.  Those votes,
> > for example, are because they don't *like* the new
> name personally,
> > not because there's any real problems with it.
> >
> 
> Nobody told them to re-vote in this situation.  They
> took it upon
> themselves to ask the IPMC.  If you ask for opinions
> from people,
> you're going to get them.
> 
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