Return-Path: Delivered-To: apmail-incubator-general-archive@www.apache.org Received: (qmail 7516 invoked from network); 16 Aug 2010 23:13:29 -0000 Received: from unknown (HELO mail.apache.org) (140.211.11.3) by 140.211.11.9 with SMTP; 16 Aug 2010 23:13:29 -0000 Received: (qmail 27250 invoked by uid 500); 16 Aug 2010 23:13:29 -0000 Delivered-To: apmail-incubator-general-archive@incubator.apache.org Received: (qmail 26944 invoked by uid 500); 16 Aug 2010 23:13:28 -0000 Mailing-List: contact general-help@incubator.apache.org; run by ezmlm Precedence: bulk List-Help: List-Unsubscribe: List-Post: List-Id: Reply-To: general@incubator.apache.org Delivered-To: mailing list general@incubator.apache.org Received: (qmail 26936 invoked by uid 99); 16 Aug 2010 23:13:28 -0000 Received: from nike.apache.org (HELO nike.apache.org) (192.87.106.230) by apache.org (qpsmtpd/0.29) with ESMTP; Mon, 16 Aug 2010 23:13:28 +0000 X-ASF-Spam-Status: No, hits=0.0 required=10.0 tests=MSGID_FROM_MTA_HEADER,SPF_PASS X-Spam-Check-By: apache.org Received-SPF: pass (nike.apache.org: local policy) Received: from [66.112.202.4] (HELO mail.devtech.com) (66.112.202.4) by apache.org (qpsmtpd/0.29) with ESMTP; Mon, 16 Aug 2010 23:13:20 +0000 Message-ID: MIME-Version: 1.0 X-MessageIsInfected: false Received: from mail.devtech.com. ([66.112.202.4]) by mail.devtech.com (JAMES SMTP Server 2.3.1-dev) with SMTP ID 418 for ; Mon, 16 Aug 2010 19:12:58 -0400 (EDT) From: "Noel J. Bergman" To: Subject: RE: an experiment Date: Mon, 16 Aug 2010 19:12:56 -0400 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit X-Priority: 3 (Normal) X-MSMail-Priority: Normal X-Mailer: Microsoft Outlook IMO, Build 9.0.6604 (9.0.2911.0) Importance: Normal In-Reply-To: <01b801cb3d8a$91b3c510$b51b4f30$@com.au> X-MimeOLE: Produced By Microsoft MimeOLE V6.00.2900.5931 X-Virus-Checked: Checked by ClamAV on apache.org Gavin McDonald wrote: > How about a PMC Chair that does more than turn up once a month at , ooh, day > before board reports are due and then disappears for a whole month until , > ooh, day before report time. Actually, I read Incubator e-mail pretty much every day. > And you still expect to run the whole show your way and jump in with 20+ > messages in one day about subjects people have been discussing for days > if not weeks before. I'm voicing an opinion, backing it up, and taking the issue to the Board for their input. If I really expected to "run the whole show [my] way", I wouldn't make sure that as much as possible is delegated and distributed to the PMC, and I would be much more vocal. Personally, I believe that the Incubator runs smoothly precisely because of that delegation. In the specific case of Joe's experiment, I would have voice my opinion earlier, but was away. Please note that, as an Incubator PMC Member, you were notified of my schedule. > And I can't wait for your excuse to be that the sole role of PMC chair is to > file reports. No, it isn't. The role of the PMC Chair is to make sure that the project runs smoothly. I was very vocal during the formative days of the Incubator, and speak up when I've something to say. Otherwise, I am quite happy to see others stepping up and staking a role in the Incubator. --- Noel --------------------------------------------------------------------- To unsubscribe, e-mail: general-unsubscribe@incubator.apache.org For additional commands, e-mail: general-help@incubator.apache.org