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From: "Noel J. Bergman" <noel@devtech.com>
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Subject: RE: an experiment
Date: Mon, 16 Aug 2010 12:36:38 -0400
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Joe Schaefer wrote:

> > How about requiring at  least one mentor on the vote, so there is still
> > some oversight?

> I'm actually not in favor of that idea because relatively few
> mentors are active developers in their projects (I'm certainly
> in that category).  Part of what I'm trying to teach is that
> self-governance requires active participants to be making the
> critical decisions.

They should be participating in the decisions, but the fact remains that
they are not PMC members, they are still a provisional community (by
definition of being in the Incubator), and the PMC cannot abandon its
mandated oversight.

The moral of the story is if you (generic, not Joe :-)) want to make
decisions, demonstrate that you are making them the ASF Way, and get to
graduation as soon as possible.

	--- Noel


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