Return-Path: Delivered-To: apmail-incubator-general-archive@www.apache.org Received: (qmail 28656 invoked from network); 16 Aug 2010 17:44:20 -0000 Received: from unknown (HELO mail.apache.org) (140.211.11.3) by 140.211.11.9 with SMTP; 16 Aug 2010 17:44:20 -0000 Received: (qmail 56650 invoked by uid 500); 16 Aug 2010 17:44:19 -0000 Delivered-To: apmail-incubator-general-archive@incubator.apache.org Received: (qmail 56458 invoked by uid 500); 16 Aug 2010 17:44:19 -0000 Mailing-List: contact general-help@incubator.apache.org; run by ezmlm Precedence: bulk List-Help: List-Unsubscribe: List-Post: List-Id: Reply-To: general@incubator.apache.org Delivered-To: mailing list general@incubator.apache.org Received: (qmail 56448 invoked by uid 99); 16 Aug 2010 17:44:18 -0000 Received: from athena.apache.org (HELO athena.apache.org) (140.211.11.136) by apache.org (qpsmtpd/0.29) with ESMTP; Mon, 16 Aug 2010 17:44:18 +0000 X-ASF-Spam-Status: No, hits=0.0 required=10.0 tests=FREEMAIL_FROM,RCVD_IN_DNSWL_NONE,SPF_PASS,T_TO_NO_BRKTS_FREEMAIL X-Spam-Check-By: apache.org Received-SPF: pass (athena.apache.org: domain of justin.erenkrantz@gmail.com designates 209.85.216.47 as permitted sender) Received: from [209.85.216.47] (HELO mail-qw0-f47.google.com) (209.85.216.47) by apache.org (qpsmtpd/0.29) with ESMTP; Mon, 16 Aug 2010 17:44:13 +0000 Received: by qwi2 with SMTP id 2so140835qwi.6 for ; Mon, 16 Aug 2010 10:43:52 -0700 (PDT) DKIM-Signature: v=1; a=rsa-sha256; c=relaxed/relaxed; d=gmail.com; s=gamma; h=domainkey-signature:mime-version:received:sender:received :in-reply-to:references:date:x-google-sender-auth:message-id:subject :from:to:content-type:content-transfer-encoding; bh=37YH030y4lT+jdINv7zfh9wEMQLQ0TCYTgAYXSIlv94=; b=HirrWk9146siLlj1bsDBduIGWXkq0x9i8Xlf3+AfDcIE2yWbcyHKGTciMHZtJi8tfK hvUARrAaRMGEEbn3gc4w4kuZ/iNosI92AlGBFYAtscuXJJMMwnUbfejtAsA2OQi7Pnrm e9233dFTuxfraGefBhrN84VSqhL4SqvpTmDfw= DomainKey-Signature: a=rsa-sha1; c=nofws; d=gmail.com; s=gamma; h=mime-version:sender:in-reply-to:references:date :x-google-sender-auth:message-id:subject:from:to:content-type :content-transfer-encoding; b=Tswnu51IoytTeVx2nttzRzeOTU+ftGtPmAc9NTrbqZ2OtpJwss6jqSBr0vrp3Yj2XQ f+eE/hxY/peNHfRz1AKPCduqr9Q8IhRbu3+a/4STYGVNhON1jFA2SWvmY/P7w7pDYRWM fOPQEKGyoAlGLwhxIWPTCyAIcueBHNlKkHAUo= MIME-Version: 1.0 Received: by 10.224.60.205 with SMTP id q13mr3472316qah.338.1281980632672; Mon, 16 Aug 2010 10:43:52 -0700 (PDT) Sender: justin.erenkrantz@gmail.com Received: by 10.229.66.34 with HTTP; Mon, 16 Aug 2010 10:43:52 -0700 (PDT) In-Reply-To: References: Date: Mon, 16 Aug 2010 10:43:52 -0700 X-Google-Sender-Auth: 6M7d1ieJ0tepqImxsV4CGoSRNsM Message-ID: Subject: Re: an experiment From: Justin Erenkrantz To: general@incubator.apache.org Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1 Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable On Mon, Aug 16, 2010 at 10:37 AM, Noel J. Bergman wrote: > Where are you seeing this "over-reach" problem to which you refer? =A0I h= ave > heard of a few isolated incidents, and those can be addressed. =A0But by = far > and way, the biggest complaint is LACK of involvement, e.g., ... > And most cases of PMC members getting involved in projects of which they > aren't a Mentor have been with respect to release packaging, where the > involvement has generally been valid and valuable, even if bothersome to > those whose packages weren't quite up to snuff. > > But, seriously, if there is systemic overreaching, lets address *that* > issue. The cases of "overreaching" in Subversion and OODT related to adding new committers - not releases. So, I'm definitely in favor of Joe's proposal to let the PPMC have control over who gets to be in the community. -- justin --------------------------------------------------------------------- To unsubscribe, e-mail: general-unsubscribe@incubator.apache.org For additional commands, e-mail: general-help@incubator.apache.org