Return-Path: Delivered-To: apmail-incubator-general-archive@www.apache.org Received: (qmail 30186 invoked from network); 12 Aug 2010 18:22:25 -0000 Received: from unknown (HELO mail.apache.org) (140.211.11.3) by 140.211.11.9 with SMTP; 12 Aug 2010 18:22:25 -0000 Received: (qmail 5084 invoked by uid 500); 12 Aug 2010 18:22:24 -0000 Delivered-To: apmail-incubator-general-archive@incubator.apache.org Received: (qmail 4810 invoked by uid 500); 12 Aug 2010 18:22:24 -0000 Mailing-List: contact general-help@incubator.apache.org; run by ezmlm Precedence: bulk List-Help: List-Unsubscribe: List-Post: List-Id: Reply-To: general@incubator.apache.org Delivered-To: mailing list general@incubator.apache.org Received: (qmail 4802 invoked by uid 99); 12 Aug 2010 18:22:23 -0000 Received: from nike.apache.org (HELO nike.apache.org) (192.87.106.230) by apache.org (qpsmtpd/0.29) with ESMTP; Thu, 12 Aug 2010 18:22:23 +0000 X-ASF-Spam-Status: No, hits=-2.3 required=10.0 tests=RCVD_IN_DNSWL_MED,SPF_PASS X-Spam-Check-By: apache.org Received-SPF: pass (nike.apache.org: local policy) Received: from [148.87.113.121] (HELO rcsinet10.oracle.com) (148.87.113.121) by apache.org (qpsmtpd/0.29) with ESMTP; Thu, 12 Aug 2010 18:22:14 +0000 Received: from acsinet15.oracle.com (acsinet15.oracle.com [141.146.126.227]) by rcsinet10.oracle.com (Switch-3.4.2/Switch-3.4.2) with ESMTP id o7CILpH7003267 (version=TLSv1/SSLv3 cipher=DHE-RSA-AES256-SHA bits=256 verify=OK) for ; Thu, 12 Aug 2010 18:21:53 GMT Received: from acsmt355.oracle.com (acsmt355.oracle.com [141.146.40.155]) by acsinet15.oracle.com (Switch-3.4.2/Switch-3.4.1) with ESMTP id o7CIBLK9030864 for ; Thu, 12 Aug 2010 18:21:50 GMT Received: from abhmt007.oracle.com by acsmt354.oracle.com with ESMTP id 491140761281637308; Thu, 12 Aug 2010 11:21:48 -0700 Received: from [192.168.0.11] (/69.181.138.81) by default (Oracle Beehive Gateway v4.0) with ESMTP ; Thu, 12 Aug 2010 11:21:46 -0700 Message-Id: From: Craig L Russell To: general@incubator.apache.org In-Reply-To: <974721.3581.qm@web54401.mail.re2.yahoo.com> Content-Type: text/plain; charset=US-ASCII; format=flowed; delsp=yes Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Subject: Re: an experiment Mime-Version: 1.0 (Apple Message framework v936) Date: Thu, 12 Aug 2010 11:21:44 -0700 References: <974721.3581.qm@web54401.mail.re2.yahoo.com> X-Mailer: Apple Mail (2.936) X-Virus-Checked: Checked by ClamAV on apache.org On Aug 11, 2010, at 10:45 AM, Joe Schaefer wrote: > The first idea should be fairly straightforward: that for > the projects I participate in (so far thrift and sis), that > the IPMC delegates to the PPMC the decision-making process > for voting in new committers: basically rolling back the clock > to May 1, 2007 on guides/ppmc.html. > Before we set ourselves up for disappointment based on unrealistic expectations, this proposal is fairly modest. Here's the current process for getting new committers into an incubating project: 1. Identify candidates 2. Discuss candidates on podling-private 3. Agree that candidate should be a committer 4. Vote on podling-private 5. Wait for everyone's vote 6. Inform incubator PMC of results of vote 7. Vote in incubator PMC if not all three mentors have voted 8. Invite committer 9. Send ICLA 10. Wait for ICLA registration 11. Send root request for committer 12. Wait for root to create account 13. Update asf authorization file for new account 14. Done All this proposal does is to eliminate step 7 in the case where the Mentors are AWOL. That said, I support the idea behind this modest proposal, and just need to see the details (several modifications have been proposed). Infra also needs to support this proposal, as the main reason for item 7 is to get root to recognize that the incubator PMC has taken official action (three votes in favor of a new committer) which has been an infrastructure requirement (also part of the details). Craig Craig L Russell Architect, Oracle http://db.apache.org/jdo 408 276-5638 mailto:Craig.Russell@oracle.com P.S. A good JDO? O, Gasp! --------------------------------------------------------------------- To unsubscribe, e-mail: general-unsubscribe@incubator.apache.org For additional commands, e-mail: general-help@incubator.apache.org