Return-Path: Delivered-To: apmail-incubator-general-archive@www.apache.org Received: (qmail 2817 invoked from network); 11 Aug 2010 23:25:11 -0000 Received: from unknown (HELO mail.apache.org) (140.211.11.3) by 140.211.11.9 with SMTP; 11 Aug 2010 23:25:11 -0000 Received: (qmail 23712 invoked by uid 500); 11 Aug 2010 23:25:11 -0000 Delivered-To: apmail-incubator-general-archive@incubator.apache.org Received: (qmail 23473 invoked by uid 500); 11 Aug 2010 23:25:10 -0000 Mailing-List: contact general-help@incubator.apache.org; run by ezmlm Precedence: bulk List-Help: List-Unsubscribe: List-Post: List-Id: Reply-To: general@incubator.apache.org Delivered-To: mailing list general@incubator.apache.org Received: (qmail 23462 invoked by uid 99); 11 Aug 2010 23:25:10 -0000 Received: from athena.apache.org (HELO athena.apache.org) (140.211.11.136) by apache.org (qpsmtpd/0.29) with ESMTP; Wed, 11 Aug 2010 23:25:10 +0000 X-ASF-Spam-Status: No, hits=0.0 required=10.0 tests=FREEMAIL_FROM,RCVD_IN_DNSWL_NONE,SPF_PASS,T_TO_NO_BRKTS_FREEMAIL X-Spam-Check-By: apache.org Received-SPF: pass (athena.apache.org: local policy) Received: from [206.190.49.131] (HELO web54401.mail.re2.yahoo.com) (206.190.49.131) by apache.org (qpsmtpd/0.29) with SMTP; Wed, 11 Aug 2010 23:25:02 +0000 Received: (qmail 30635 invoked by uid 60001); 11 Aug 2010 23:24:36 -0000 DKIM-Signature: v=1; a=rsa-sha256; c=relaxed/relaxed; d=yahoo.com; s=s1024; t=1281569076; bh=YoAyQ7YfrsA1FwGS1+8LKpUvLXltKsCYS2viG9eDwBg=; h=Message-ID:X-YMail-OSG:Received:X-Mailer:References:Date:From:Subject:To:In-Reply-To:MIME-Version:Content-Type; b=tZ5//ClouI0T/DerSThv8MKN7K2aInlMgmmwCWPJMnvrJ+PJ8wYLF/UYpx4rsZOczc2/QyhckZTLOOh2P1iYIc5nl8pE7gpc5fIMNaKbBwfoTF0jbHiITQljj7RC75BLU5GN0xtpm2QzRQBJz28J4K+EqcwIqSkTvNvHfI5KUJ0= DomainKey-Signature: a=rsa-sha1; q=dns; c=nofws; s=s1024; d=yahoo.com; h=Message-ID:X-YMail-OSG:Received:X-Mailer:References:Date:From:Subject:To:In-Reply-To:MIME-Version:Content-Type; b=b8Oj1dnaKQ7vl92hoiUe4HqsCBb2LJYrdtM+9pCHYte7pZGQAB4R8QTKaH0ZQljkUCwqBmRZuMXU4oTc0VZiIRayYf9HggHhaTnM0ulKGNQrn9/qbuWg2vDOp8R1uU72U3x8LaiJjFxT5lIshqtfLjlC+0OBpkePMf7BaY0yp+c=; Message-ID: <460503.29158.qm@web54401.mail.re2.yahoo.com> X-YMail-OSG: T1xTiT8VM1nX1O79ZSa5BygnA1wkWEzNuC0Jzf97zXhq00j sKnyI3Ak4Lx8ZqKiEtiM4nN.QHHVI5VonV3q4DhnXDNHCtkAdVs.WsCfcDSo VOhVrpKIqXA4ezmC43KD7..jiSwq5uZcSr6RTLfKH_s0vi1gby8ATAq53Hbq OxcIkwNV6sfv6vRjFPZRahQlopvgS_Bg14oRv4nPasQSwYvJ0dqxW_SxH4Gm u_OXv8rwAYc5rSPQgMyMb4ozovlbfibJiA0dFfY4PjN_LfXUveNSvouljHhk oPI8sBtUXqrnYj.C6nIP5YjDLCKElVDOCmaaunn_jL9EPrZSbInWU3iB1FPA mAn7jnCjOPU.K7g-- Received: from [99.135.28.65] by web54401.mail.re2.yahoo.com via HTTP; Wed, 11 Aug 2010 16:24:36 PDT X-Mailer: YahooMailRC/459 YahooMailWebService/0.8.105.279950 References: <974721.3581.qm@web54401.mail.re2.yahoo.com> <4C632401.1010503@gmail.com> Date: Wed, 11 Aug 2010 16:24:36 -0700 (PDT) From: Joe Schaefer Subject: Re: an experiment To: general@incubator.apache.org In-Reply-To: <4C632401.1010503@gmail.com> MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii ----- Original Message ---- > From: Davanum Srinivas > To: general@incubator.apache.org > Sent: Wed, August 11, 2010 6:28:17 PM > Subject: Re: an experiment > > Ant, > > My personal opinion (and i am hoping!) was that such individuals > from ppmc's who end up in ipmc would help build bridges > between podlings and will help get lessons learned (when any ppmc > has issues/problems/roadblocks) back to their ppmc. > This is one area where i've seen people struggle, folks from > different projects learning the same lessons the hard way. Good point. > I am not too worried about "binding" vote one podling ppmc > member have over another podling's release. the "binding" is > for me a legal thing (as in we need 3 binding ipmc votes for a release). I think ant is more concerned about graduation votes. We could simply write a new rule that podling committers on the IPMC brought in through my initiative MUST ABSTAIN from graduation votes. I don't think the board would be the least bit upset if we did that. --------------------------------------------------------------------- To unsubscribe, e-mail: general-unsubscribe@incubator.apache.org For additional commands, e-mail: general-help@incubator.apache.org