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Date: Tue, 17 Aug 2010 09:45:20 -0700 (PDT)
From: Joe Schaefer <joe_schaefer@yahoo.com>
Subject: Re: Radical revamp
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----- Original Message ----

> From: Carl Trieloff <cctrieloff@redhat.com>
> To: general@incubator.apache.org
> Sent: Tue, August 17, 2010 12:35:29 PM
> Subject: Re: Radical revamp

> 
> I've been  following this thread, and have another mail written, but not 
> posted,
> maybe I will at some point... however I find myself trying to  understand 
> what would
> be the key attributes that would make this proposal  a wild success, or a 
> failure for
> a podling. By success, I mean a well run  ASF project. The proposal has 
> caught my
> imagination, but I'm trying to  understand the parameters of guidance in 
> this model.
> 
> To this  question, (what will make this model succeed or fail) I find 
> myself not  coming
> to defensible answers... I would love to see thoughts of others on  this 
> question.
> 
> The thread implies it comes down to the 3+ members on  the  project.

Sorry that I have been mixing threads here.  My experiment differs from
Greg's in that I'm just looking for a few minor tweaks for a few projects
at this point, whereas Greg's, which is the subject of *this* thread,
is definitely more radical.  While I have little doubt that with people
like Greg actively involved in the project, practically any organizational
model that doesn't tie him down will work.

But Greg isn't the typical Incubator Mentor, and what would work swimmingly
for him might not be the best approach for every Incubating project.  I do
question the idea that just having 3 Members on the project and leaving them
to their own devices will actually work well for the majority of our podlings.
After all practically everyone on the IPMC is currently a Member, and lots
of our podlings have 3 members nominally attached to them.  And according to
Greg, it just isn't working out.


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