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From Davanum Srinivas <dava...@gmail.com>
Subject Re: an experiment
Date Thu, 12 Aug 2010 19:56:54 GMT
Fair enough :)

Sent from my iPhone

On Aug 12, 2010, at 3:10 PM, Craig L Russell  
<craig.russell@oracle.com> wrote:

> Hi Dims,
>
> On Aug 12, 2010, at 12:05 PM, Davanum Srinivas wrote:
>
>> Craig,
>>
>> in my mind, it's not the number of steps that we eliminate, it's the
>> message that we send. Instead of saying you all are *under* the
>> microscope, we say that real quickly a few of you will become part of
>> the microscope and look in on not just yours but also other
>> podlings...my 2 cents.
>
> I think your comment is in regard to Joe's other proposal that all  
> committers become part of the incubator PMC. I didn't address that  
> proposal here.
>
> Craig
>
>>
>> thanks,
>> dims
>>
>> On Thu, Aug 12, 2010 at 2:21 PM, Craig L Russell
>> <craig.russell@oracle.com> wrote:
>>>
>>> On Aug 11, 2010, at 10:45 AM, Joe Schaefer wrote:
>>>
>>>> The first idea should be fairly straightforward: that for
>>>> the projects I participate in (so far thrift and sis), that
>>>> the IPMC delegates to the PPMC the decision-making process
>>>> for voting in new committers: basically rolling back the clock
>>>> to May 1, 2007 on guides/ppmc.html.
>>>>
>>> Before we set ourselves up for disappointment based on unrealistic
>>> expectations, this proposal is fairly modest. Here's the current  
>>> process for
>>> getting new committers into an incubating project:
>>>
>>> 1. Identify candidates
>>> 2. Discuss candidates on podling-private
>>> 3. Agree that candidate should be a committer
>>> 4. Vote on podling-private
>>> 5. Wait for everyone's vote
>>> 6. Inform incubator PMC of results of vote
>>> 7. Vote in incubator PMC if not all three mentors have voted
>>> 8. Invite committer
>>> 9. Send ICLA
>>> 10. Wait for ICLA registration
>>> 11. Send root request for committer
>>> 12. Wait for root to create account
>>> 13. Update asf authorization file for new account
>>> 14. Done
>>>
>>> All this proposal does is to eliminate step 7 in the case where  
>>> the Mentors
>>> are AWOL.
>>>
>>> That said, I support the idea behind this modest proposal, and  
>>> just need to
>>> see the details (several modifications have been proposed). Infra  
>>> also needs
>>> to support this proposal, as the main reason for item 7 is to get  
>>> root to
>>> recognize that the incubator PMC has taken official action (three  
>>> votes in
>>> favor of a new committer) which has been an infrastructure  
>>> requirement (also
>>> part of the details).
>>>
>>> Craig
>>>
>>> Craig L Russell
>>> Architect, Oracle
>>> http://db.apache.org/jdo
>>> 408 276-5638 mailto:Craig.Russell@oracle.com
>>> P.S. A good JDO? O, Gasp!
>>>
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>>
>>
>>
>> -- 
>> Davanum Srinivas :: http://davanum.wordpress.com
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> Craig L Russell
> Architect, Oracle
> http://db.apache.org/jdo
> 408 276-5638 mailto:Craig.Russell@oracle.com
> P.S. A good JDO? O, Gasp!
>
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