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From Sanjiva Weerawarana <>
Subject Re: When a committer leaves ...
Date Wed, 25 Aug 2010 05:12:51 GMT
IMO the main thing to be careful about is to not look at committership from
the traditional organizational structure approach. Committership is a means
to an end (modifying code) but we are also interested in getting that person
become actually be committed to the project and care about it and have a
personal interest in it (and from there in the ASF). Many of us got started
in ASF or other FOSS projects because of work but then it grew beyond that.

Thus if the motivation for removing committership is that the person is now
assigned to another project by the employer/management then I'm absolutely
-1 on it. If its being removed because the person was an active committer
but has since decided its not for them then its fine, although I find it a
bit disturbing a person would go thru that transition within the life of an
incubating project. It is of course fine to trim the list at the point of
graduation by looking at those who actually contributed during the
incubation phase vs. just adding their name as "oh yes I'll contribute".


On Tue, Aug 24, 2010 at 7:14 AM, Benson Margulies <>wrote:

> Could I shake an opinion out of anyone else here? I'm having trouble
> wrapping my intuition around,
> "Person X sent email saying, I'm not going to participate any longer.'
> but we're going to keep him on the committer list anyhow." I would
> further expect that the initial PMC would consist of people who
> answered positively to an email on the subject.  If everyone else
> agrees with Luciano and Niclas I'll sit down.
> On Mon, Aug 23, 2010 at 8:24 PM, Niclas Hedhman <>
> wrote:
> > On Tue, Aug 24, 2010 at 1:45 AM, Benson Margulies <>
> wrote:
> >> Luciano,
> >>
> >> A River committer has indicated a lack of interest in remaining
> >> involved. Emeritus status seems overkill in a podling, but that's just
> >> my opinion. Since this is an active expression of dis-interest, the
> >> 'how long' question seems not too relevant to me.
> >>
> >> As part of cleaning them up for graduation, based on my experience
> >> back on CXF, I'm thinking that it would be good to trim the committer
> >> list by at least removing people who actively aren't interested.
> >
> > I think that the committer list could very well remain without
> > trimming as it will be a decent record of past contributors, and that
> > the effort is put into "Who is going to be on the PMC if/when a
> > podling graduate?" which is effectively the "current stewards of the
> > codebase".
> >
> >
> > Cheers
> > --
> > Niclas Hedhman, Software Developer
> > - New Energy for Java
> >
> > I  live here;
> > I  work here;
> > I relax here;
> >
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Sanjiva Weerawarana, Ph.D.
Founder, Director & Chief Scientist; Lanka Software Foundation;
Founder, Chairman & CEO; WSO2;
Founder & Director; Thinkcube Systems;
Member; Apache Software Foundation;
Member; Sahana Software Foundation;
Visiting Lecturer; University of Moratuwa;


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