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From Greg Stein <>
Subject Re: Radical revamp
Date Tue, 17 Aug 2010 02:31:20 GMT
On Mon, Aug 16, 2010 at 22:07, Ross Gardler <> wrote:
> On 17/08/2010 03:00, Noel J. Bergman wrote:
>> I think that it is a very interesting proposal, that could work very well
>> in
>> specific circumstances, and I'd be willing to see it tried as an
>> experiment,
>> if the Board buys into it.  Do we have any such projects pending or
>> already
>> in the Incubator?
> I'd be up for trying this, or whatever the board and IPMC approve, with the
> project I mentioned in the other thread. Problem there is that we don't know
> how long the legal stuff will be "in progress" or that the proposal will
> even be accepted.
> Anything from a couple of weeks to a few months would be my guess at this
> point.

This raises some interesting points to refine my blue-sky proposal.

First, the IPMC wouldn't be approving the project's incubation. It
would be the Board setting up the TLP to hold the podling. I'm not
sure how many proposals a month we get at the Incubator... 2 per
month? I think the Board could handle that, but ... with all that
said, it may still want to delegate an "initial discussion/evaluation"
to the Incubator PMC first to weed out noise and refine the proposal.
Then again, given the 3+ Member bar that must be reached... there
won't be many arriving at the ASF with that kind of built-in backing.
This alternate approach will only be available to a subset, I believe.

If the stuff sits in "legal review" for a while, then no big deal. The
Board can still construct an (empty) TLP that will manage the receipt
and review of the software grant. If the originators bail out, then
the TLP just gets shut down. I certainly don't see a big issue here.


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