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From Karl Wright <daddy...@gmail.com>
Subject Re: Name change from "Lucene Connectors Framework" to "Apache Connectors Framework"
Date Mon, 30 Aug 2010 17:39:45 GMT
FWIW, helium is the output product of a sun-like star, not the fuel.  That
would be hydrogen.

Karl

On Mon, Aug 30, 2010 at 1:23 PM, Benson Margulies <bimargulies@gmail.com>wrote:

> It seems to me that the pivotal problem here is the word connector. On
> the one hand, it could mean almost anything to almost anyone. On the
> other hand, it has a specific denotation in the vicinity of httpd.
> Everything at Apache is in the vicinity of httpd.
>
> I'd offer the following 'made-up' options, all following Apache:
>
>  - manifold  (many connections)
>  - omnivore (eats anything)
>  - rapunzel (spins straw into gold)
>  - diogenes (seeking for something)
>  - lantern (ditto)
>  - helium (fuel for Solr)
>
> The whole question of brand management strikes me as interesting: is
> it, in fact, the job of the incubator PMC to groom the Apache branding
> portfolio by guiding new projects towards better names? Is that in our
> charter, or should we, as Chris suggests, defer to someone else for
> problems in this area.
>
>
> On Mon, Aug 30, 2010 at 1:12 PM, Mattmann, Chris A (388J)
> <chris.a.mattmann@jpl.nasa.gov> wrote:
> > Guys,
> >
> > If I may: since we're discussing marks, why not post to trademarks@ and
> ask Shane and crew to weigh in? Maybe you have already, but if so, I haven't
> seen that discussion mentioned over here on general@incubator.
> >
> > Thanks!
> >
> > Cheers,
> > Chris
> >
> >
> > On 8/30/10 10:03 AM, "Grant Ignersoll" <gsingers@apache.org> wrote:
> >
> >
> >
> > On Aug 27, 2010, at 12:15 PM, David Jencks wrote:
> >> To try to illustrate my thinking rather than push a name down your
> throat...
> >> Open ConnectorFramework/OpenConnectorFramework/OpenCF  OK, since you've
> added a branding word.  Not ideal since the purpose appears overly broad
> >> Content Connector Framework/ContentConnectorFramework/CCF OK, since
> you've clarified the scope.  Not ideal since has no branding word.
> >> OpenContentConnectorFramework/OpenCCF better since it clarifies the
> scope and includes a branding word.
> >
> > So, the word "open" somehow alleviates your concern?  I don't get that.
>  If your objection is that it comes across as being _the_ Apache connector
> library, then how does "Open" modulate that?  It's still the Apache Open
> Connector Framework.  It's still descriptive and still implies it's the one.
>  Besides, it's the ASF, isn't "Open" implied/redundant?  We would never have
> the Apache Closed Connector Framework, right?
> >
> > Likewise, the word Content implies the same "only" status, albeit here I
> will give you that it distinguishes it from Tomcat Connector somewhat,
> although the Tomcat Connector is just that, the Tomcat connector.  However,
> I still don't buy that it is a "branding" word.  Content is pretty much
> meaningless.  Everything is content.  I have no doubt that we could write a
> plugin for ACF that connected to Tomcat and got Content out of it.  Heck, we
> already do. It's called a web crawler.
> >
> > So, that leaves us, in my mind w/ the option of some made up name or we
> stick w/ ACF.  I'm all for a made up one if someone comes up with one, I
> just don't know what it is and no one in the community seems to have one
> either.  ACF fits and the community likes it.  It's not unprecedented at the
> ASF and I don't think it is confusing with Tomcat Connector.
> >
> > At any rate, the community would like some resolution.  Should I just
> call an official vote on ACF and if it loses then we will go back to the
> drawing board?
> >
> > -Grant
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