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From Ross Gardler <rgard...@apache.org>
Subject Re: Radical revamp (was: an experiment)
Date Tue, 17 Aug 2010 08:05:59 GMT
On 17 Aug 2010, at 03:31, Joe Schaefer <joe_schaefer@yahoo.com> wrote:

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>> From: Noel J. Bergman <noel@devtech.com>
>> To: general@incubator.apache.org
>> Sent: Mon, August 16, 2010 10:00:40 PM
>> Subject: RE: Radical revamp (was: an experiment)
>> 
>> Greg Stein wrote:
>> 
>>> Using  this model decentralizes the process
>> 
>> So does having 3+ PMC Members  today.
> 
> To me this is a common flaw in both how the IPMC operates today and how
> Greg's proposal relies on 3 Members to get anything accomplished.  If
> you've been paying attention to what actually happens in this PMC over
> time,  you can't possibly have missed all the begging for votes that
> goes on.
> 
> Reliance on 3 overworked people who are typically not podling committers
> to always be there when the project needs them is both unrealistic and
> doesn't scale.  We've been doing it for years, inflicting massive
> pain on the podlings whenever they release or want new committers,
> and it sucks.  That's what my experiment aims to fix.

I believe that not having three mentors interested enough to provide oversight on key issues
indicates the project is not as valid as we might think. 

There is a reverse side of the too much oversight coin. People sometimes vote +1 without providing
the checks. 

That being said this solution is not one that s perfect.

Ross



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