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From Joe Schaefer <>
Subject Re: Incubator Board Report - August 2010
Date Mon, 16 Aug 2010 19:03:27 GMT
----- Original Message ----

> From: Noel J. Bergman <>
> To:
> Cc:
> Sent: Mon, August 16, 2010 2:52:18 PM
> Subject: Incubator Board Report - August 2010

> On to a topic for the Board's  attention.  There has been some lively
> discussion this past week,  initiated by Joe Schaefer regarding making
> Incubator projects more  self-governing.  Although a valid goal, the actual
> proposals appear  troubling in terms of ASF governance structure.
> A specific proposal, for  which Joe would like a formal vote, amounts to
> whether the ASF Board approves  the granting of Committer status without PMC
> approval, and bypassing the PMC  on the matter.  Individual current and past
> Directors have already  engaged, but it is requested that the Board consider
> the issue, and  respond.

All I've asked is that the rule regarding a formal vote from 3 IPMC members
be dropped in favor of just honoring the votes of the PPMC.  The rest of
the umpteen oversight steps regarding inducting a new committer into the
Incubator remain intact: describing that as "bypassing the PMC" isn't really
fair to my position.


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