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From Craig L Russell <craig.russ...@oracle.com>
Subject Re: an experiment
Date Thu, 12 Aug 2010 19:10:18 GMT
Hi Dims,

On Aug 12, 2010, at 12:05 PM, Davanum Srinivas wrote:

> Craig,
>
> in my mind, it's not the number of steps that we eliminate, it's the
> message that we send. Instead of saying you all are *under* the
> microscope, we say that real quickly a few of you will become part of
> the microscope and look in on not just yours but also other
> podlings...my 2 cents.

I think your comment is in regard to Joe's other proposal that all  
committers become part of the incubator PMC. I didn't address that  
proposal here.

Craig

>
> thanks,
> dims
>
> On Thu, Aug 12, 2010 at 2:21 PM, Craig L Russell
> <craig.russell@oracle.com> wrote:
>>
>> On Aug 11, 2010, at 10:45 AM, Joe Schaefer wrote:
>>
>>> The first idea should be fairly straightforward: that for
>>> the projects I participate in (so far thrift and sis), that
>>> the IPMC delegates to the PPMC the decision-making process
>>> for voting in new committers: basically rolling back the clock
>>> to May 1, 2007 on guides/ppmc.html.
>>>
>> Before we set ourselves up for disappointment based on unrealistic
>> expectations, this proposal is fairly modest. Here's the current  
>> process for
>> getting new committers into an incubating project:
>>
>> 1. Identify candidates
>> 2. Discuss candidates on podling-private
>> 3. Agree that candidate should be a committer
>> 4. Vote on podling-private
>> 5. Wait for everyone's vote
>> 6. Inform incubator PMC of results of vote
>> 7. Vote in incubator PMC if not all three mentors have voted
>> 8. Invite committer
>> 9. Send ICLA
>> 10. Wait for ICLA registration
>> 11. Send root request for committer
>> 12. Wait for root to create account
>> 13. Update asf authorization file for new account
>> 14. Done
>>
>> All this proposal does is to eliminate step 7 in the case where the  
>> Mentors
>> are AWOL.
>>
>> That said, I support the idea behind this modest proposal, and just  
>> need to
>> see the details (several modifications have been proposed). Infra  
>> also needs
>> to support this proposal, as the main reason for item 7 is to get  
>> root to
>> recognize that the incubator PMC has taken official action (three  
>> votes in
>> favor of a new committer) which has been an infrastructure  
>> requirement (also
>> part of the details).
>>
>> Craig
>>
>> Craig L Russell
>> Architect, Oracle
>> http://db.apache.org/jdo
>> 408 276-5638 mailto:Craig.Russell@oracle.com
>> P.S. A good JDO? O, Gasp!
>>
>>
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>
>
>
> -- 
> Davanum Srinivas :: http://davanum.wordpress.com
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Craig L Russell
Architect, Oracle
http://db.apache.org/jdo
408 276-5638 mailto:Craig.Russell@oracle.com
P.S. A good JDO? O, Gasp!


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