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From Donald Woods <dwo...@apache.org>
Subject Re: an experiment
Date Fri, 13 Aug 2010 13:46:35 GMT


On 8/11/10 5:30 PM, Davanum Srinivas wrote:
> 
> On 08/11/2010 05:19 PM, Donald Woods wrote:
>>
>>
>> On 8/11/10 1:45 PM, Joe Schaefer wrote:
>>> So.  Following some advice given to me by Sam Ruby,
>>> I'd like to start experimenting with different organizational
>>> and procedural approaches to the projects I participate in
>>> here.  What I want to do is to see how far I can push
>>> the envelope on the whole notion of empowerment and
>>> self-governance in an incubating project, following the
>>> lessons I've learned from httpd's treatment of the subprojects
>>> it happens to be responsible for.
>>>
>>> The first idea should be fairly straightforward: that for
>>> the projects I participate in (so far thrift and sis), that
>>> the IPMC delegates to the PPMC the decision-making process
>>> for voting in new committers: basically rolling back the clock
>>> to May 1, 2007 on guides/ppmc.html.
>>
>> How about requiring at least one mentor on the vote, so there is still
>> some oversight?
> 
> Having all mentors vote is good but not necessary...IMHO
> 
>>>
>>> The second idea is more controversial: to hold IPMC votes to
>>> admit all significant committers to those projects to the IPMC
>>> itself.  The purpose of this concept is to allow those who
>>> best know the codebase to provide IPMC oversight over it,
>>> especially as it pertains to releases.
>>
>> Would still like this to be an opt-in, where any existing PMC member
>> interested in helping with the Incubator could request membership and be
>> added after 72 hours (expanding ASF member rules to apply to all PMC
>> members.)  For committers (non-PMC members), I'd want an existing IPMC
>> or PMC member nominate the person to the IPMC and require a 72hr lazy
>> consensus, since IPMC members are expected to mentor and teach new
>> podlings about the Apache way.
> 
> By PMC you mean PPMC? i am confused.

Any PMC member of a TLP.  The projects have obviously vetted their
skills and contributions before inviting to their PMC, so the barrier to
IPMC membership should be lower for them.

> 
>>>
>>> I welcome your comments, criticisms, and other feedback.
>>> Thanks.
>>>
>>>
>>>
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