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From Joe Schaefer <>
Subject Re: [VOTE] Apache Shiro graduation as TLP
Date Tue, 17 Aug 2010 23:15:43 GMT
----- Original Message ----

> From: Emmanuel Lecharny <>
> To:
> Sent: Tue, August 17, 2010 7:09:12 PM
> Subject: Re: [VOTE] Apache Shiro graduation as TLP
> On 8/18/10 12:24 AM, Kalle Korhonen wrote:
> > <snip/>
> > I'm  with Stefano there: I do contest the view that svn is the
> >  release,
> You can contest, but the fact is that a release is just a revision  in the SVN 
>trunk, not a package you deliver, AFAIU. I suggest that you read  carefully this 
> and more  specifically the last paragraph :
> " The Apache Software Foundation  produces open source software. All releases 
>are in the form of the *source  materials* needed to make changes to the 
>software being released. In some cases,  binary/bytecode packages are also 
>produced as a convenience to users that might  not have the appropriate tools to 
>build a compiled version of the source. In all  such cases, the binary/bytecode 
>package must have the *same version number* as  the source release and may only 
>add binary/bytecode files that are the result of  compiling that version of the 
>source code release"
> In other word, the  release *is* the SVN revision that has been voted.

Bzzt. The release package may contain files not found in svn. See httpd
releases for examples.  That is why the document you referenced avoids
discussion of svn; it's the actual tarball that counts.

> > but let's leave  that for another thread. I'm watching the
> > issue and perhaps I'll restore  the LICENSE file on top of the tree.
> Please do. If you are not convinced by  the complex wording used by the Apache 
>site, just have a look at every ASF  project, you will see that the LICENSE file 
>is present in each trunk and  tag.
> It's also explicitly written on  
> At least, I would  suggest that you restore the file, then discuss the 
>rationale for this file  being present or not on another thread:)

The reason it's good to have the LICENSE and NOTICE file appear in the
base of any reasonable svn checkout is because svn is a distribution
point for developers, so having license info about the collected work
(represented by an svn checkout) appear in expected places is important.


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