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Date: Tue, 23 Feb 2010 09:02:42 -0800
From: Craig L Russell <Craig.Russell@Sun.COM>
Subject: Re: [VOTE] [PROPOSAL] Validation incubator for JSR-303 Bean
 Validation
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+1

Go for it.

Craig

On Feb 23, 2010, at 7:57 AM, Donald Woods wrote:

> Given the lack of response on the proposal and the push from our
> champion to get moving :-), I'll assume lazy consensus and call a  
> vote.
>
> I would like to present for a vote the following proposal to be
> sponsored by the Incubator PMC for a new Validation podling.  The goal
> is to build a community around delivering a JSR-303 Bean Validation
> implementation based on a new incoming codebase from Agimatec GmbH.
>
> The proposal is available on the wiki at and included below:
>
>   http://wiki.apache.org/incubator/ValidationProposal
>
>
> [] +1  to accept Validation into the Incubator
> []  0  don't care
> [] -1  object and reason why.
>
>
> Thanks,
> Donald Woods
>
>
> ---- Proposal text from the wiki ----
>
> Validation
>
> Abstract
>
> The Validation project will deliver an implementation of the Bean
> Validation Specification (JSR303)
>
> Proposal
>
> The initial Validation codebase will use the Agimatec Validation  
> source,
> which is an implementation of the Bean Validation Specification  
> (JSR303).
>
> Although the destination of the Validation podling is not fixed, the
> idea is that it will graduate to Apache Commons and replace the  
> existing
> Validator 1.x component as a new 2.0 codebase.
>
> Background
>
> Agimatec Validation has been developed by Agimatec Gmbh and is about  
> 90%
> complete towards implementing the JSR303 specification. The
> Agimatec-Validation project is currently hosted on Google Code and is
> ASL 2.0 licensed. Agimatec has no intention to complete or maintain  
> the
> implementation but has given the lead developer permission to continue
> working on the project on his own time.
>
> A number of existing Apache projects (Geronimo, OpenJPA, MyFaces,
> OpenEJB, Commons) are interested in an implementation of the Bean
> Validation specification and Donald Woods suggested adopting the
> Agimatec Validation code rather than starting from scratch.
>
> Rationale
>
> There is currently no Apache project focused on providing a JSR-303
> implementation. The existing Commons Validator 1.x project codebase  
> does
> not include support for Java 5 annotations and predates the JSR-303
> specification effort. By using the Agimatec-Validation code, we can
> bootstrap the effort to create a Validator 2 release and focus on
> polishing/enhancing the code, certification activities and integration
> and support of other Apache projects.
>
> Current Status
>
> Agimatec Validation and is about 95% complete towards implementing the
> JSR303 specification.
>
> An SGA for the Agimatec Validation has been received and on file from
> Agimatec Gmbh.
>
> Meritocracy
>
> As a majority of the initial project members are existing ASF
> committers, we recognize the desirability of running the project as a
> meritocracy. We are eager to engage other members of the community and
> operate to the standard of meritocracy that Apache emphasizes; we
> believe this is the most effective method of growing our community and
> enabling widespread adoption.
>
> Community
>
> Even though the reference implementation for the JSR-303 Bean  
> Validation
> specification is licensed under ASL 2.0, it is not being developed  
> with
> meritocracy in mind, as the release process is controlled by the JBoss
> division of Red Hat to meet their own product needs.
>
> Validation aims to build a community of developers interested in the
> definition and delivery of a JSR-303 compliant runtime, which can be
> reused as a common component by a number of different projects (like
> Geronimo, OpenJPA, MyFaces, ....) By maintaining independence of the
> target runtime, it is our intention to build the broadest possible
> community of developers.
>
> Core Developers
>
> The lead developer from the Agimatec Validation project will be joined
> by a number of committers from existing ASF projects.
>
> Alignment
>
> The purpose of Validation is to develop a certified implementation of
> JSR-303. Some components may be developed and delivered by other  
> Apache
> projects, like:
>
>    * Bean Validation 1.0 spec API - Apache Geronimo Specs subproject
>    * JSF2 integration - MyFaces ExtVal components
>
> Known Risks
>
> The current JSR-303 portions of the Agimatec-Validation code was
> developed by a single developer from Agimatec (Roman) with no  
> available
> documents on the structure of the code.
>
> Orphaned Products
>
> The project will be implementing the JSR-303 Bean Validation
> specification, which is a required component for both the Web and Full
> profiles of Java EE 6. There is minimal risk of this work becoming
> non-strategic and the contributors are confident that a larger  
> community
> will form within the project in a relatively short space of time.
>
> Inexperience with Open Source
>
> Many of the committers have experience working in one or more open
> source projects including Apache Commons, Geronimo, OpenJPA, OpenEJB,
> OpenWebBeans and MyFaces.
>
> Homogeneous Developers
>
> The list of initial committers are geographically distributed across  
> the
> U.S., Europe and Africa with no one company being associated with a
> majority of the developers. Many of these initial developers are
> experienced Apache committers already and all are experienced with
> working in distributed development communities. It is our hope that,
> through the incubator, further contributors with a broad background of
> experience but common interest will become involved with this project.
>
> Reliance on Salaried Developers
>
> To the best of our knowledge, none of the initial committers are being
> paid to develop code for this project.
>
> Relationships with Other Apache Products
>
> A number of existing ASF projects require an implementation of JSR303
> including Geronimo, OpenJPA and MyFaces. It is hoped that members of
> those projects will be interested in contributing to and adopting this
> implementation.
>
> Apache Geronimo - Apache Geronimo is a server runtime framework and
> fully certified Java EE 5 application server runtime. It is interested
> in using this project, to provide the required JSR-303 implementation
> for the upcoming Geronimo 3.0 server, which will be a Java EE 6
> certified release.
>
> Apache OpenJPA - Apache OpenJPA is a JPA provider, who needs to
> integrate and test with a JSR-303 provider as part of JSR-317 JPA2
> specification. In the future, we may decide to include the Validation
> artifacts in our distribution for Java SE users.
>
> Apache MyFaces - Apache MyFaces is a JSF provider, who needs to
> integrate and test with a JSR-303 provider as part of the JSR-314 JSF2
> specification. It is our hope, that the preferred Bean Validation
> provider will become Validation instead of the Hibernate RI, after the
> project exits the incubator.
>
> A Excessive Fascination with the Apache Brand
>
> The Agimatec-Validation code is currently being hosted on Google Code.
> The developers (Agimatec Gmbh) did not approach Apache, but were  
> instead
> approached by Donald Woods about moving the code to Apache in hopes to
> build a broader and more vibrant community around the code and as the
> eventual next generation Commons Validator codebase.
>
> Documentation
>
> JSR303 Bean Validation Specification:
>
>    * http://jcp.org/en/jsr/detail?id=303
>
> Agimatec Validation Project:
>
>    * http://code.google.com/p/agimatec-validation/
>
> Initial Source
>
> The intiial source comprises code developed as as part of the
> agimatec-validation project on googlecode:
>
>    * http://code.google.com/p/agimatec-validation/source/browse/
>
> Source and Intellectual Property Submission Plan
> SGA has been submitted. Source tarball has not been uploaded to SVN  
> yet.
>
> External Dependencies
>
>    * Runtime
>          o Apache Geronimo Bean Validation 1.0 Spec API
>          o Apache Commons BeanUtils
>          o Apache Commons Lang
>          o Apache Commons Logging
>          o Apache Commons Collections
>          o XStream
>    * Optional
>          o org.freemarker - freemarker template to generate JSON  
> output
>    * Tests
>          o JUnit
>          o Log4J
>
> Required Resources
>
>    * Mailing lists
>          o validation-private (with moderated subscriptions)
>          o validation-dev
>          o validation-user
>          o validation-commits
>    * Subversion directory
>          o https://svn.apache.org/repos/asf/incubator/validation
>    * Website
>          o Confluence (VALIDATION)
>    * Issue Tracking
>          o JIRA (VALIDATION)
>
> Initial Committers
>
> Names of initial committers with affiliation and current ASF status:
>
>    * Roman Stumm [roman.stumm at agimatec.de] - (Agimatec GmbH, CLA  
> filed)
>    * Donald Woods [dwoods] - (IBM, ASF committer)
>    * Niall Pemberton [niallp] - (EMC, ASF committer)
>    * Mohammad Nour El-Din [mnour] - (Thebe Technology, ASF committer)
>    * Simone Tripodi [simone.tripodi at gmail.com] - (Asemantics S.r.l,
> CLA filed)
>    * Jeremy Bauer [jrbauer] - (IBM, ASF committer)
>    * Gerhard Petracek [gpetracek] - (IRIAN Solutions GmbH, ASF  
> committer)
>    * Mark Struberg [struberg] - (ASF committer)
>
> Sponsors
>
> Champion
>
>    * Kevan Miller
>
> Nominated Mentors
>
>    * Kevan Miller
>    * Niall Pemberton
>    * Luciano Resende
>
> Sponsoring Entity
>
>    * Apache Incubator PMC
>
>
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Craig L Russell
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