Return-Path: Delivered-To: apmail-incubator-general-archive@www.apache.org Received: (qmail 73840 invoked from network); 13 Dec 2009 10:29:53 -0000 Received: from hermes.apache.org (HELO mail.apache.org) (140.211.11.3) by minotaur.apache.org with SMTP; 13 Dec 2009 10:29:53 -0000 Received: (qmail 93485 invoked by uid 500); 13 Dec 2009 10:29:52 -0000 Delivered-To: apmail-incubator-general-archive@incubator.apache.org Received: (qmail 93277 invoked by uid 500); 13 Dec 2009 10:29:52 -0000 Mailing-List: contact general-help@incubator.apache.org; run by ezmlm Precedence: bulk List-Help: List-Unsubscribe: List-Post: List-Id: Reply-To: general@incubator.apache.org Delivered-To: mailing list general@incubator.apache.org Delivered-To: moderator for general@incubator.apache.org Received: (qmail 13248 invoked by uid 99); 13 Dec 2009 00:18:44 -0000 X-ASF-Spam-Status: No, hits=-2.6 required=5.0 tests=AWL,BAYES_00 X-Spam-Check-By: apache.org Received-SPF: pass (athena.apache.org: domain of sf@nuxeo.com designates 209.85.219.220 as permitted sender) Cc: general@incubator.apache.org Message-Id: <6BFF3922-CFD7-4FA2-9751-6C3DB7ACCED2@nuxeo.com> From: Stefane Fermigier To: chemistry-dev@incubator.apache.org In-Reply-To: <4B238E3B.8020003@wyona.com> Content-Type: text/plain; charset=US-ASCII; format=flowed; delsp=yes Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Mime-Version: 1.0 (Apple Message framework v936) Subject: Re: [PROPOSAL] OpenCMIS incubator for Content Mangement Interoperability Services (CMIS) Date: Sun, 13 Dec 2009 01:18:12 +0100 References: <646a352f0912100700q5bc45268vebaa75cbf56c7269@mail.gmail.com> <56C255F88C54014E92512ED3E7848F940467943A@MUCXGC1.opentext.net> <510143ac0912110824w1df1e1d8jad87624e7fbc588d@mail.gmail.com> <56C255F88C54014E92512ED3E7848F9404679495@MUCXGC1.opentext.net> <1E26A0A1-5B0E-4F00-8281-26BB440048E8@nuxeo.com> <56C255F88C54014E92512ED3E7848F9404679497@MUCXGC1.opentext.net> <4B22C535.9030008@wyona.com> <4B238E3B.8020003@wyona.com> X-Mailer: Apple Mail (2.936) On Dec 12, 2009, at 1:36 PM, Michael Wechner wrote: > Stefane Fermigier schrieb: >> OK, I personally believe this is in contradiction with the first >> commandment of the Apache Way: >> >> "*Community over Code* is a frequent saying that exemplifies ASF >> projects. Community uses Openness and Merit, expressed through >> Collaborative and Consensus driven work, to build lasting projects >> that use a Pragmatic License. While a diverse community is a >> requirement for every ASF project, we also expect people to >> contribute as Individuals, and wear appropriate Hats." > > I cannot see any contradiction. Can you explain where exactly you > see the contradiction? As I understand it, the Apache Way means that building consensus has more value than a code base that can be donated but can't be modified because, well, there are good reasons not to do it. >> -> Let our Apache Foundation overlords decide. > > who are you refering to? I'm not familiar with the process, but I understand that some people are going to be responsible for deciding who will graduate and who won't. >> I still think that at least there should be common code (ex: >> constants, as suggested by Jukka) and I hope that this will the >> case, in any case. > > Maybe you want to go one step towards OpenCMIS and make a concrete > suggestion what you think could be shared and I am quite certain > the OpenCMIS guys will also make a step towards Chemistry as > well .... and I am confident collaboration will happen, but yes > somebody has > to make a first step and maybe it is even an advantage to take this > first step ;-) I think suggestions have already been made. S. -- Stefane Fermigier, Founder and Chairman, Nuxeo Open Source, Java EE based, Enterprise Content Management (ECM) Web: http://www.nuxeo.com/ - Tel: +33 1 40 33 79 87 New: follow me on Twitter: http://twitter.com/sfermigier --------------------------------------------------------------------- To unsubscribe, e-mail: general-unsubscribe@incubator.apache.org For additional commands, e-mail: general-help@incubator.apache.org