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From "Goetz, Paul" <paul.go...@sap.com>
Subject RE: [PROPOSAL] OpenCMIS incubator for Content Mangement Interoperability Services (CMIS)
Date Thu, 10 Dec 2009 09:47:01 GMT
Hi,

well, sorry that the discussion did not happen on the Chemistry mailing list.

But for those being employees needing a legal clearance from their employer, before they can
contribute or mail to a mailing list, it is difficult to do that in an early stage...
That's why we discussed that with Florent - and I did assume that he was discussing that with
the Chemistry project.

We have a working code base already - discussing the modus operandi and a potential merge
with Chemistry seems to be time consuming to me (compared to doing a review once the entire
OpenCMIS code is available and stabilized). Wouldn't it be worth to give it a try?

Gianugo Rabellino wrote:
> I wish this discussion happened on chemistry-dev, and I would actually
> like to see what the community as a whole thinks about it.
I would also like to see what the community as a whole thinks about it.

Best regards,
Paul

-----Original Message-----
From: Felix Meschberger [mailto:fmeschbe@gmail.com] 
Sent: Donnerstag, 10. Dezember 2009 10:00
To: general@incubator.apache.org
Subject: Re: [PROPOSAL] OpenCMIS incubator for Content Mangement Interoperability Services
(CMIS)

Hi,

Gianugo Rabellino schrieb:
> ... snip ...
> I wish this discussion happened on chemistry-dev, and I would actually
> like to see what the community as a whole thinks about it. I'd
> actually prefer to see OpenCMIS possibly spinning off from Chemistry
> after an unsuccessful integration attempt rather than merging at a
> later time.

I share Gianugo's and Bertrand's concerns. And as a mentor to the
Chemistry poddling, I am even somewhat more concerned....

As such, I would welcome such discussion very much to take place and to
sort out the issues.

Regards
Felix


> 
>> And there are other Apache products co-existing in parallel (e.g. Axis and CXF, just
to pick one example), and the ASF has never stated that this has to be avoided. So to me,
it seemed that the idea of having two projects in parallel isn't that bad.
> 
> Oh, there are plenty, and duplication isn't inherently bad. The
> difference here (and it's a big one in my book) is that we are talking
> about two different podlings, with all the related issues of
> incubating projects such as finite resources and whatnot. And the fact
> they both aim to implement an unfinished spec doesn't quite help.
> 
> May I suggest we move this discussion to the Chemistry lists in order
> to seek consensus over there? That would allow you to return to the
> Incubator with a proposal  properly addressing the duplication issue.
> If there is a thorough discussion over there, and a general agreement
> (including agreeing to disagree), I'll be happy to sign up as a
> mentor/champion for OpenCMIS.
> 

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