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Date: Thu, 5 Nov 2009 14:46:27 +0900
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Subject: Re: [PROPOSAL][VOTE] Subversion
From: "Edward J. Yoon" <edwardyoon@apache.org>
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On Thu, Nov 5, 2009 at 5:12 AM, Greg Stein <gstein@gmail.com> wrote:
> =C2=A0Subversion is a version control system. =C2=A0You probably know it =
well as
> it is the version control system employed by the Apache Software
> Foundation.
>
> =C2=A0The Subversion project would like to join the Apache Software
> Foundation to remove the overhead of having to run its own
> corporation. =C2=A0The Subversion project is already run quite like an
> Apache project, and already counts a number of ASF Members amongst
> its committers.
>
> =C2=A0Work on Subversion was originally started at CollabNet; Karl Fogel
> was hired in January 2000. =C2=A0Jim Blandy, at RedHat, already had an
> initial design for the storage system, which was incorporated into the
> FS design. =C2=A0In February Brian Behlendorf invited Greg Stein to
> contribute his WebDAV experience to Subversion. =C2=A0Ben Colins-Sussman
> was hired in April 2000 to work on the project. =C2=A0In that same month
> the first "all hands" meeting was held, where a number of "interested
> people" came together to talk about the project.
>
> =C2=A0Subversion was run as an open source project since the early days.
> Now, more than nine years later, it retains a healthy community,
> and has a good number of committers. =C2=A0In the life span of Subversion=
,
> several committers have switched employers and have maintained involvemen=
t.
> The committership is diverse, both geographically as well as in terms of
> employment.
>
> =C2=A0The equivalent of the PMC consists of all the full committers to th=
e
> Subversion project (currently around 55 people). =C2=A0The community uses=
 the
> voting process also used at the ASF. =C2=A0Releases are signed off by gat=
hering
> votes/digital signatures of each committer who verified the release
> candidate.
>
> =C2=A0We feel the ASF and Subversion communities are very compatible,
> witness the cross interest that already exists. There is both a
> vibrant developer as well as a large and active user community.
> Technology-wise, Subversion builds on APR, and implements two Apache
> HTTP Server modules.
>
> =C2=A0Note that Subversion has a number of related projects, which are no=
t
> part of this proposal (e.g. cvs2svn, TortoiseSVN, Subclipse).
>
> =C2=A0More information on Subversion can be found at
> http://www.subversion.org/ and http://subversion.tigris.org/.
>
> =C2=A0The Subversion Corporation has a license to all source code, and ha=
s
> CLAs on file for nearly all it's committers. =C2=A0That is, we have all b=
ut
> one or two full committers, and some percentage of partial committers.
>
> =C2=A0We have a number of *user-configurable* dependencies which are not
> compatible with the AL:
> =C2=A0- Neon, a HTTP client library, used by libsvn_ra_neon, is LGPL.
> =C2=A0 (An alternative HTTP client library, libsvn_ra_serf uses the Serf
> =C2=A0 =C2=A0library under ALv2.)
>
> =C2=A0- Qt, KDE and GNOME libraries are also under LGPL-2.1. D-Bus (which
> is also used by libsvn_auth_gnome_keyring and libsvn_auth_kwallet) is
> under Academic Free License 2.1 or >=3DGPL-2.
> =C2=A0 (This support is for integration for KDE and GNOME's authenticatio=
n
> =C2=A0 =C2=A0providers.)
>
> =C2=A0- libintl
> =C2=A0 (This library provides translation support for systems without
> =C2=A0 =C2=A0a proper internationalization library.)
>
> =C2=A0- BDB
> =C2=A0 (This is used by the libsvn_fs_base system which stores its data
> =C2=A0 =C2=A0in BDB; an alternative repository system called fs_fs does n=
ot
> =C2=A0 =C2=A0have this dependency.)
>
> ---
> Required Resources
> =C2=A0- Mailing lists
> =C2=A0 - dev
> =C2=A0 - issues
> =C2=A0 - users
> =C2=A0 - private
> =C2=A0 - commits
> =C2=A0 - announce
> =C2=A0 - breakage (see
> http://subversion.tigris.org/ds/viewForumSummary.do?dsForumId=3D552)
> =C2=A0 - We will work with the Infrastructure team to transfer the subscr=
iber
> =C2=A0 =C2=A0 listings to the new destinations.
> =C2=A0- Subversion:
> =C2=A0 - We have not made a decision whether we prefer Subversion should =
be
> =C2=A0 =C2=A0 imported into the main ASF Subversion repository or be host=
ed as a
> =C2=A0 =C2=A0 separate repository to enable early testing of the reposito=
ry code. =C2=A0We
> =C2=A0 =C2=A0 intend to discuss this during the Incubation process before=
 the code is
> =C2=A0 =C2=A0 imported. =C2=A0It is also understood that ASF infrastructu=
re team may be
> =C2=A0 =C2=A0 willing to run custom pre-release Subversion server builds =
for the
> =C2=A0 =C2=A0 entire ASF, so this separate repository option may not be r=
equired.
> =C2=A0 - The Subversion source code can be found at:
> =C2=A0 =C2=A0 http://svn.collab.net/repos/svn/.
> =C2=A0- Issue tracking
> =C2=A0 - We haven't made a decision between JIRA or Bugzilla at this time=
 and
> =C2=A0 =C2=A0 expect this decision to be made as part of the Incubation p=
rocess. =C2=A0Our
> =C2=A0 =C2=A0 current issue tracking system uses Issuezilla (a fork of Bu=
gzilla) and
> =C2=A0 =C2=A0 we have not yet decided whether we want to import our previ=
ous issues
> =C2=A0 =C2=A0 into the new system and will decide this in the course of t=
he Incubation
> =C2=A0 =C2=A0 process.
> =C2=A0 - Our current issue tracker is at
> =C2=A0 =C2=A0 http://subversion.tigris.org/issue-tracker.html.
> =C2=A0- Buildbot
> =C2=A0 - We currently use buildbot across a number of platforms and confi=
gurations
> =C2=A0 =C2=A0 for automated builds and testing. =C2=A0Over time, we would=
 like to migrate
> =C2=A0 =C2=A0 these services to Apache infrastructure where appropriate.
> =C2=A0 - Our current buildbot master is at
> =C2=A0 =C2=A0 http://buildbot.subversion.org/buildbot/
>
> =C2=A0Note that we request these resources to be at their final locations=
,
> not an intermediary while going through incubation. =C2=A0The cost of
> switching twice would otherwise be significant due to the size of the
> existing community.
>
> =C2=A0The Subversion team members are happy to work with and assist the A=
SF
> Infrastructure team to enable early deployments of its release candidates=
 if
> possible.
>
> Initial Committers
>
> =C2=A0The list of initial committers is at
> http://svn.collab.net/repos/svn/trunk/COMMITTERS.
>
> The initial PMC members are those listed as full committers in that
> file (lines 1-74).
>
> Sponsors
> =C2=A0* Champion: Greg Stein
> =C2=A0* Nominated Mentors: Justin Erenkrantz, Greg Stein, Sander Striker,=
 Daniel Rall
> =C2=A0* Sponsor:
>
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Best Regards, Edward J. Yoon @ NHN, corp.
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