Return-Path: Delivered-To: apmail-incubator-general-archive@www.apache.org Received: (qmail 98965 invoked from network); 18 Nov 2009 04:41:23 -0000 Received: from hermes.apache.org (HELO mail.apache.org) (140.211.11.3) by minotaur.apache.org with SMTP; 18 Nov 2009 04:41:23 -0000 Received: (qmail 86504 invoked by uid 500); 18 Nov 2009 04:41:22 -0000 Delivered-To: apmail-incubator-general-archive@incubator.apache.org Received: (qmail 86246 invoked by uid 500); 18 Nov 2009 04:41:20 -0000 Mailing-List: contact general-help@incubator.apache.org; run by ezmlm Precedence: bulk List-Help: List-Unsubscribe: List-Post: List-Id: Reply-To: general@incubator.apache.org Delivered-To: mailing list general@incubator.apache.org Received: (qmail 86236 invoked by uid 99); 18 Nov 2009 04:41:19 -0000 Received: from athena.apache.org (HELO athena.apache.org) (140.211.11.136) by apache.org (qpsmtpd/0.29) with ESMTP; Wed, 18 Nov 2009 04:41:19 +0000 X-ASF-Spam-Status: No, hits=-2.3 required=5.0 tests=AWL,BAYES_00 X-Spam-Check-By: apache.org Received-SPF: pass (athena.apache.org: domain of hedhman@gmail.com designates 209.85.218.210 as permitted sender) Received: from [209.85.218.210] (HELO mail-bw0-f210.google.com) (209.85.218.210) by apache.org (qpsmtpd/0.29) with ESMTP; Wed, 18 Nov 2009 04:41:16 +0000 Received: by bwz2 with SMTP id 2so871325bwz.20 for ; Tue, 17 Nov 2009 20:40:55 -0800 (PST) DKIM-Signature: v=1; a=rsa-sha256; c=relaxed/relaxed; d=gmail.com; s=gamma; h=domainkey-signature:mime-version:sender:received:in-reply-to :references:date:x-google-sender-auth:message-id:subject:from:to :content-type; bh=ESenS2PY0hgvjmoTy02ZBD17nxsVoCQoaE6it0uWrbU=; b=Mt1N00vCiZBburQGw3pJfuQDu6e2/0y01X5tl8f+++Xz3HlHVkl6CQ65yyzFQ96kgZ THWbp2SESpNXfcbfBqqS3f5Wzo5ayt2EvKdcTa2ivfOG4NOKkfLX6v+f/zZaNh2V8Q9W RfQlxHWWn2zrkIchTqOjVU8AGT4Sysql8x/CM= DomainKey-Signature: a=rsa-sha1; c=nofws; d=gmail.com; s=gamma; h=mime-version:sender:in-reply-to:references:date :x-google-sender-auth:message-id:subject:from:to:content-type; b=XCuuc0S11gdKawRkWbG6/vvHd3xxrz0Vktg/Fa9BcvjsMbPjWcpMY3rydMaF9fycXg 4mCAF0iWzFYvhKbXGuVBKH9UUoghVlI7yGPHK8x1uRKhTq36lW3UcfeopjgKaHVLPytt TCTW4ejR/TRRGpgqXRkzVtnmncP5x06OvlU5g= MIME-Version: 1.0 Sender: hedhman@gmail.com Received: by 10.239.181.163 with SMTP id m35mr1033165hbg.175.1258519255388; Tue, 17 Nov 2009 20:40:55 -0800 (PST) In-Reply-To: <5c902b9e0911170806k7b25ac9ejf8c636305400893e@mail.gmail.com> References: <4B01823C.6020303@collab.net> <6cca3db30911161100m365d357ke914229b6c26dabe@mail.gmail.com> <98F18167-F34D-4CB0-9259-BF85CAF0DC00@dslextreme.com> <4B0268D9.5010705@xbc.nu> <15170F25-B884-4A90-BA5A-5353CCF778CB@dslextreme.com> <5c902b9e0911170806k7b25ac9ejf8c636305400893e@mail.gmail.com> Date: Wed, 18 Nov 2009 12:40:55 +0800 X-Google-Sender-Auth: 2e16cf1539001cc5 Message-ID: Subject: Re: JavaHL package namespace / migration / compatability From: Niclas Hedhman To: general@incubator.apache.org Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1 On Wed, Nov 18, 2009 at 12:06 AM, Justin Erenkrantz wrote: > As Hyrum suggests, we can use org.apache.subversion.* if we want to > create a new (better) Java interface within our versioning rules - but > that isn't necessary nor should it be a pre-req for graduation. IMNSHO, either Subversion address this issue pre-graduation, OR we remove the package name change requirement for ALL incubating projects, leaving it up to the project post-graduation to address it. It has been a contentious issue in the past, and will be so in the future, and I am not going to defend ASF's position if it doesn't apply to everyone. I would actually like to hear from more Java-centric developers of Board and IPMC what they think about this... Cheers -- Niclas Hedhman, Software Developer http://www.qi4j.org - New Energy for Java I live here; http://tinyurl.com/2qq9er I work here; http://tinyurl.com/2ymelc I relax here; http://tinyurl.com/2cgsug --------------------------------------------------------------------- To unsubscribe, e-mail: general-unsubscribe@incubator.apache.org For additional commands, e-mail: general-help@incubator.apache.org