Return-Path: Delivered-To: apmail-incubator-general-archive@www.apache.org Received: (qmail 92960 invoked from network); 9 Nov 2009 15:57:24 -0000 Received: from hermes.apache.org (HELO mail.apache.org) (140.211.11.3) by minotaur.apache.org with SMTP; 9 Nov 2009 15:57:24 -0000 Received: (qmail 60473 invoked by uid 500); 9 Nov 2009 15:57:23 -0000 Delivered-To: apmail-incubator-general-archive@incubator.apache.org Received: (qmail 60266 invoked by uid 500); 9 Nov 2009 15:57:22 -0000 Mailing-List: contact general-help@incubator.apache.org; run by ezmlm Precedence: bulk List-Help: List-Unsubscribe: List-Post: List-Id: Reply-To: general@incubator.apache.org Delivered-To: mailing list general@incubator.apache.org Received: (qmail 60256 invoked by uid 99); 9 Nov 2009 15:57:22 -0000 Received: from nike.apache.org (HELO nike.apache.org) (192.87.106.230) by apache.org (qpsmtpd/0.29) with ESMTP; Mon, 09 Nov 2009 15:57:22 +0000 X-ASF-Spam-Status: No, hits=-0.0 required=10.0 tests=SPF_PASS X-Spam-Check-By: apache.org Received-SPF: pass (nike.apache.org: domain of justin.erenkrantz@gmail.com designates 209.85.160.41 as permitted sender) Received: from [209.85.160.41] (HELO mail-pw0-f41.google.com) (209.85.160.41) by apache.org (qpsmtpd/0.29) with ESMTP; Mon, 09 Nov 2009 15:57:14 +0000 Received: by pwj1 with SMTP id 1so2205020pwj.20 for ; Mon, 09 Nov 2009 07:56:53 -0800 (PST) DKIM-Signature: v=1; a=rsa-sha256; c=relaxed/relaxed; d=gmail.com; s=gamma; h=domainkey-signature:mime-version:sender:received:in-reply-to :references:date:x-google-sender-auth:message-id:subject:from:to :content-type; bh=XzWmSp2waeok88/J5LCNPmaoLLsOhSN8+p/niHcgTv4=; b=mFl1G9Ia77VS0+bXY+VROkjJ3o+EHZiefVRfumVB5fA4/G5rXeDkjLZVu9ZtNjL2Xc ABYSxAR5vPIfzXIcXaEJJdHimUd9a4+Is8g8yqEYV6O6OWOwv8SsZFFqeIrGdB50sgvt PBAangcqk2TklHoouuEqyCTGlVj0kAC+lXxLs= DomainKey-Signature: a=rsa-sha1; c=nofws; d=gmail.com; s=gamma; h=mime-version:sender:in-reply-to:references:date :x-google-sender-auth:message-id:subject:from:to:content-type; b=QlQIV5ING7ysu+yFntyxdguF8YS7VkiiGi8vAlMbknDtE+iqH3GwM3XhJjeQ2JYbSh aqKcnMSTX4KU/X32j7MIDvFtOBqQDhUnqL2sAZEyPbB2uwDl0Mz7UiBSlIdE0yEEaIxk P51/TZD08nnRntc2+RAQPnBR+LrVQn/4EaXVk= MIME-Version: 1.0 Sender: justin.erenkrantz@gmail.com Received: by 10.142.67.24 with SMTP id p24mr789267wfa.252.1257782213423; Mon, 09 Nov 2009 07:56:53 -0800 (PST) In-Reply-To: References: <6cca3db30911081725m55f979d0p50c2bc9b97b04cc5@mail.gmail.com> <5c902b9e0911090615s59d13865m6a48c016130d9024@mail.gmail.com> <30b2aef60911090703ifb6cddfi583da5be33674cae@mail.gmail.com> <5c902b9e0911090724o522633b8l9ef77d40ff263118@mail.gmail.com> Date: Mon, 9 Nov 2009 16:56:53 +0100 X-Google-Sender-Auth: c2b49f1cc7c9d187 Message-ID: <5c902b9e0911090756k2f6e1c6cpa8042f3e66f777ff@mail.gmail.com> Subject: Re: Insanity. Apache Incubator should be about education (was: [PROPOSAL][VOTE] Subversion) From: Justin Erenkrantz To: general@incubator.apache.org Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1 X-Virus-Checked: Checked by ClamAV on apache.org On Mon, Nov 9, 2009 at 4:39 PM, Bertrand Delacretaz wrote: > OTOH, podlings that don't have 3 active mentors can't get 3 binding > votes internally, so IPMC members have to jump in sometimes. Thanks to > those of us who do! I view the proposal accepting the projects with the listed mentors as delegating the oversight to the mentors. So, I don't know if it should be required that you must get three IPMC members to vote on every little thing a podling does. I think it tends to let projects think that people who don't contribute anything deserve merit and have rights to tell them what to do. I'm not sure that sets an appropriate precedent. Let me put it another way: if the IPMC accepts a proposal with one mentor, then I'm fine with that one mentor acting on behalf of the IPMC without the need to constantly go back to the IPMC for approval. -- justin --------------------------------------------------------------------- To unsubscribe, e-mail: general-unsubscribe@incubator.apache.org For additional commands, e-mail: general-help@incubator.apache.org