Return-Path: Delivered-To: apmail-incubator-general-archive@www.apache.org Received: (qmail 97517 invoked from network); 10 Nov 2009 08:59:49 -0000 Received: from hermes.apache.org (HELO mail.apache.org) (140.211.11.3) by minotaur.apache.org with SMTP; 10 Nov 2009 08:59:49 -0000 Received: (qmail 21854 invoked by uid 500); 10 Nov 2009 08:59:49 -0000 Delivered-To: apmail-incubator-general-archive@incubator.apache.org Received: (qmail 21663 invoked by uid 500); 10 Nov 2009 08:59:48 -0000 Mailing-List: contact general-help@incubator.apache.org; run by ezmlm Precedence: bulk List-Help: List-Unsubscribe: List-Post: List-Id: Reply-To: general@incubator.apache.org Delivered-To: mailing list general@incubator.apache.org Received: (qmail 21653 invoked by uid 99); 10 Nov 2009 08:59:48 -0000 Received: from nike.apache.org (HELO nike.apache.org) (192.87.106.230) by apache.org (qpsmtpd/0.29) with ESMTP; Tue, 10 Nov 2009 08:59:48 +0000 X-ASF-Spam-Status: No, hits=1.2 required=10.0 tests=SPF_NEUTRAL X-Spam-Check-By: apache.org Received-SPF: neutral (nike.apache.org: local policy) Received: from [64.202.165.31] (HELO smtpauth18.prod.mesa1.secureserver.net) (64.202.165.31) by apache.org (qpsmtpd/0.29) with SMTP; Tue, 10 Nov 2009 08:59:39 +0000 Received: (qmail 24542 invoked from network); 10 Nov 2009 08:59:17 -0000 Received: from unknown (76.252.112.72) by smtpauth18.prod.mesa1.secureserver.net (64.202.165.31) with ESMTP; 10 Nov 2009 08:59:17 -0000 Message-ID: <4AF92B65.3020409@rowe-clan.net> Date: Tue, 10 Nov 2009 02:59:17 -0600 From: "William A. Rowe, Jr." User-Agent: Thunderbird 2.0.0.23 (Windows/20090812) MIME-Version: 1.0 To: general@incubator.apache.org Subject: Re: Insanity. Apache Incubator should be about education (was: [PROPOSAL][VOTE] Subversion) References: <6cca3db30911081725m55f979d0p50c2bc9b97b04cc5@mail.gmail.com> <918312fe0911090627g3c315ebp695c6432a34a2f18@mail.gmail.com> <6cca3db30911090649o3b0ed3d5lacd3ec26ac892a9a@mail.gmail.com> <591FDBA1-1546-413E-A7C1-8659DF752BB1@objectstyle.org> <6cca3db30911090723y3d72c8b0nee1d21a5218f1b7d@mail.gmail.com> In-Reply-To: <6cca3db30911090723y3d72c8b0nee1d21a5218f1b7d@mail.gmail.com> X-Enigmail-Version: 0.96.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=UTF-8 Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit X-Virus-Checked: Checked by ClamAV on apache.org Greg Stein wrote: > > Yup. And I'll note that that "limbo" you describe has been an issue > with the Board for a long while now. That is why the Board instructed > the IPMC to request all podlings to list two items in their reports: > > 1) when did you arrive? > 2) what is left? > > Specifically to focus the podling (and the IPMC) on the question of > "WHY are you still in the Incubator?" > > Podlings should be shepherded *out* rather than held *in*. Hmmm... here you go again. Do you really believe there's a mentor here who doesn't want to be 'done' with their task at hand, offering up a functioning project for graduation? Mentors -do- exactly this, which is why your rants continue to read as disingenuous and insulting. We are glad the board has such confidence that the Incubator is producing effect meritocracies that collaborate effectively. If your's is not the minority opinion, there is a much larger 'Insanity' thread to begin, which starts with [VOTE] and ends in "Dissolve Incubator?" --------------------------------------------------------------------- To unsubscribe, e-mail: general-unsubscribe@incubator.apache.org For additional commands, e-mail: general-help@incubator.apache.org