From general-return-23774-apmail-incubator-general-archive=incubator.apache.org@incubator.apache.org Tue Nov 10 18:18:08 2009 Return-Path: Delivered-To: apmail-incubator-general-archive@www.apache.org Received: (qmail 49413 invoked from network); 10 Nov 2009 18:18:06 -0000 Received: from hermes.apache.org (HELO mail.apache.org) (140.211.11.3) by minotaur.apache.org with SMTP; 10 Nov 2009 18:18:06 -0000 Received: (qmail 33609 invoked by uid 500); 10 Nov 2009 18:18:05 -0000 Delivered-To: apmail-incubator-general-archive@incubator.apache.org Received: (qmail 33423 invoked by uid 500); 10 Nov 2009 18:18:05 -0000 Mailing-List: contact general-help@incubator.apache.org; run by ezmlm Precedence: bulk List-Help: List-Unsubscribe: List-Post: List-Id: Reply-To: general@incubator.apache.org Delivered-To: mailing list general@incubator.apache.org Received: (qmail 33413 invoked by uid 99); 10 Nov 2009 18:18:05 -0000 Received: from athena.apache.org (HELO athena.apache.org) (140.211.11.136) by apache.org (qpsmtpd/0.29) with ESMTP; Tue, 10 Nov 2009 18:18:05 +0000 X-ASF-Spam-Status: No, hits=-2.9 required=5.0 tests=AWL,BAYES_00 X-Spam-Check-By: apache.org Received-SPF: pass (athena.apache.org: domain of gstein@gmail.com designates 72.14.220.157 as permitted sender) Received: from [72.14.220.157] (HELO fg-out-1718.google.com) (72.14.220.157) by apache.org (qpsmtpd/0.29) with ESMTP; Tue, 10 Nov 2009 18:18:02 +0000 Received: by fg-out-1718.google.com with SMTP id e12so1283022fga.0 for ; Tue, 10 Nov 2009 10:17:41 -0800 (PST) DKIM-Signature: v=1; a=rsa-sha256; c=relaxed/relaxed; d=gmail.com; s=gamma; h=domainkey-signature:mime-version:received:date:message-id:subject :from:to:content-type; bh=JlqtGvqNsK8bl7Jkeqw4Ww3ypD3cAzJ85jgN1ZDbdS0=; b=vXJ1JT3EjIyFZnzVJ/2K0ZRS6rsHSjY/KtTBpGhaYDnmuHB08PxfRIMfvdP+NtL6xl BK90OoLEBqzZdI2C8JPc4TwfwnrdAOYxu5i6kHb0oEomN13TLc9LgpsqwkLe7OSBO9wH t8yQ+XyZyHxfd5GJ5ntnljnH1M/p8/NTibaew= DomainKey-Signature: a=rsa-sha1; c=nofws; d=gmail.com; s=gamma; h=mime-version:date:message-id:subject:from:to:content-type; b=SIBCn+ssG3Sama6NUFkajEcGSkW2STWYvajSVNQ8ZnvIxugpSHFhoRtcpm8bCwzyEj lvEddm+UBGp7UH1eYz91nGccXXO0AnLLP0lTTF3LKqXPvZ9PPa1zrmI+QE966nQNA8GS qOlT7RiY6DhbHbWzdXqi9cg/p8AwMvBRlSe8A= MIME-Version: 1.0 Received: by 10.87.64.6 with SMTP id r6mr365405fgk.48.1257877061534; Tue, 10 Nov 2009 10:17:41 -0800 (PST) Date: Tue, 10 Nov 2009 13:17:41 -0500 Message-ID: <6cca3db30911101017s73793389jcc8ef0bb820258f8@mail.gmail.com> Subject: [VOTE] Request for Waiver of "Make a Release" requirement for Incubator graduation From: Greg Stein To: general@incubator.apache.org Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1 Hello IPMC, The Subversion podling would like a waiver of the requirement to make a release before graduation. As we understand this requirement, it is present in order to demonstrate to the podling how releases are made at the ASF. Packaging, licensing, signing, placement into the distrubtion/mirror system, announcements, among others[1]. We believe that the Subversion community already has a deep understanding of the Apache release model, based on the following qualifications of several of its committers/mentors: * Greg Stein has been a committer at Apache since before the Foundation was started. He has been involved in releases of httpd and APR, including time as Release Manager (RM) for APR. He helped to establish the APR TLP and the Commons TLP (prior incarnation; now defunct). Greg wrote the versioning guidelines for APR, which are also in use by the Subversion project. Through his 8+ years on the Board, he has read and reviewed reports from across the ASF about release, IP, and infrastructure issues. * Justin Erenkrantz has been a committer since 2001, contributing to httpd and APR, along with mentoring the stdcxx project when it was in the Incubator. He has been the RM for both httpd and APR. In fact, Justin wrote the initial guidelines for the release of httpd. Justin has been part of Infrastructure almost since its inception as a distinct group, which includes the provision of all the facilities to actually make and distribute ASF releases. Justin has spent many years on the Board, providing further insight to releases across the Foundation. * Sander Striker has been a committer since 2001, contributing to APR and then httpd. Sander acted as the RM for httpd releases, and also held a stint as the VP for httpd. Add in his time spent with Infrastructure and the Board, and he's been observing ASF releases for many years. * Garrett Rooney has been a committer since 2004, contributing and making releases of APR, and committing to httpd. He was also the VP of APR for several years, and has mentored two Incubating projects. * Daniel Rall has been a committer since 2001, contributing to many projects: Turbine, Fulcrum, Torque, and numerous Jakarta Commons projects. He established the community around XML-RPC, brought it through the Incubator, and maintained it for several years within the XML Project. He also participated in some of the bootstrapping around the Velocity and Maven projects, and participated on the Infra team. The Subversion community's belief is that we have ample experience to guide us in making a release, when that time is arrives. There will certainly be variances (e.g. mirroring) from our current established procedures[2], but some simple fine-tuning should resolve that. The bulk of the existing release process already meets and exceeds that a typical Apache release. Niclas Hedman pointed out that the Subversion community has produced 32 releases over the past four years, which hopefully indicates a smooth, understood, and functional release process. Cheers, -g [1] one particular item is using a release as a gating/focal point for legal review, but we feel that can be performed as an action separate/distinct from performing a release [2] http://subversion.tigris.org/release-process.html --------------------------------------------------------------------- To unsubscribe, e-mail: general-unsubscribe@incubator.apache.org For additional commands, e-mail: general-help@incubator.apache.org