On Nov 6, 2009, at 4:07 PM, Greg Stein wrote: > [Sorry for brevity; phone] > > We're not ready for an alpha, but we could do an "internal" > experimental > release. I seem to recall seeing that in the docs. +1 As I thought I said earlier, *any* release that has proper Apache packaging, licensing, and notices is fine with me. We've had this discussion in the incubator before, for similar reasons, and I think there is consensus that a formal review of a podling release is a reasonable gate for graduation. No one needs to believe that the release is stable, tested, reliable, etc.; it just needs to be reviewed. Craig > > How about that? > > On Nov 6, 2009 3:50 PM, "Craig L Russell" > wrote: > > On Nov 6, 2009, at 11:44 AM, Greg Stein wrote: > On Fri, Nov 6, 2009 > at > 14:36, Craig L Russell For my money, I'd prefer to see a real Apache release with the real > copyright notices and licenses that the project intends to ship. > > Perhaps make an alpha 1.7 from the trunk? Doesn't even need to work > perfectly, since the process to make sure a release works is already > known. > > We have required every incubating project for the last few years to > make a > release before graduation. > > Craig > >>>>>> Does that clarify my message? > > Thanks, > -g > >> >>> --------------------------------------------------------------------- > >> To unsubscribe, e-mail: ge... >> > Craig L Russell Architect, Sun Java Enterprise System > http://db.apache.org/jdo 408 276-5638 mailto:... Craig L Russell Architect, Sun Java Enterprise System http://db.apache.org/jdo 408 276-5638 mailto:Craig.Russell@sun.com P.S. A good JDO? O, Gasp!