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From Matthieu Riou <matthieu.r...@gmail.com>
Subject Re: Review-Then-Commit
Date Thu, 12 Nov 2009 16:52:06 GMT
On Thu, Nov 12, 2009 at 8:36 AM, Greg Stein <gstein@gmail.com> wrote:

> On Thu, Nov 12, 2009 at 11:32, Eric Evans <eevans@rackspace.com> wrote:
> >...
> > I agree with this, and as a Cassandra committer I have in the past
> > protested our use of RTC. However, the current work-flow *in practice*
> > is more about having someone, anyone, give changes a once over (making
> > sure they build, that tests pass, that they do what they claim, etc),
> > before committing.
> >
> > I agree with you, but tabled my protest because in practice what we have
> > is working, doesn't seem to be a barrier to contribution, and everyone
> > seems happy with it (even the casual contributors).
>
> I wouldn't say "everyone". This whole thread started because at least
> one person is not happy with it.
>
>
And that person isn't a committer but a user. Note that I agree with some of
your remarks (and his), my point though is that it's up to the PMC to figure
it out and it shouldn't be more than an advice for them to take into
account. Not a graduation blocker.


> > I actually work with
> > these people on a daily basis, and I trust that when/if it actually does
> > become a problem, that people will be open to changing it.
>
> This actually scares me a bit. That a discussion of methodology is
> happening among a few people at work, rather than among everybody on
> the mailing list.
>
>
I think the "work" above was work-as-in-developing, not
work-as-in-workplace.

Matthieu


> >...
> >> My opinion is that it is very unfortunate that Cassandra feels that it
> >> cannot trust its developers with a CTR model, and pushes RTC as its
> >> methodology. The group-mind smashes down the creativity of the
> >> individual, excited, free-thinking contributor.
> >
> > Cassandra is in incubation, so by all means, use the IPMC group-mind to
> > smash the individual, excited, and free-thinking Cassandra contributors
> > into submission.
>
> My opinion was asked, and I answered. Please don't ascribe more to it than
> that.
>
> Cheers,
> -g
>
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