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From Greg Stein <>
Subject Re: Insanity. Apache Incubator should be about education
Date Fri, 13 Nov 2009 04:51:41 GMT
On Thu, Nov 12, 2009 at 22:05, Jukka Zitting <> wrote:
> Hi,
> On Wed, Nov 11, 2009 at 4:11 PM, Greg Stein <> wrote:
>> Plan: raise an issue, and we fix it.
>> Not sure what else you're looking for.
> I was just pointing out that if you want to do the release review
> based on an existing 1.6.x release, I wouldn't expect it to be fully
> compliant with Apache policies (license headers, etc.) and would
> accept a plan on how those issues will be (or already are being)
> resolved in the first Apache release of Subversion (1.7.0?). To me
> that would satisfy the release-related exit criteria we have.
> I'm also fine with the other proposed ways of satisfying or waiving
> those exit criteria.

Sigh. You've just looped right back around.

I offered a demonstration of the 1.6.x releases as a demonstration of
our *process*. But that was deemed unacceptable.

The Apache-branded stuff is trunk or 1.7, which has no scheduled
release. "No release" was deemed unacceptable.

If you want to review *bits* rather than *release process*, then you
can take a look at trunk/ or the nightlies that we'll soon produce. If
you want release process *and* Apache-branding, then the svn community
is not prepared to provide that, nor do I think it necessary (see the
deferred vote for waiving a release).

But your above paragraph is some conflation of release practices,
legal review, and how this fits into graduation requirements. And I
just got done with a frustrating several days on that issue. What do
you want?


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