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From Greg Stein <gst...@gmail.com>
Subject Re: Insanity. Apache Incubator should be about education (was: [PROPOSAL][VOTE] Subversion)
Date Tue, 10 Nov 2009 18:28:51 GMT
On Tue, Nov 10, 2009 at 13:02, Jukka Zitting <jukka.zitting@gmail.com> wrote:
> Hi,
>
> On Tue, Nov 10, 2009 at 7:40 PM, Greg Stein <gstein@gmail.com> wrote:
>> We're making a 1.6.7 release in the next 2-3 weeks, as I stated
>> before. The Incubator can see how that works (I also gave pointers to
>> 1.6.6).
>
> +1 Since Subversion release procedures already meet most Apache
> policies, reviewing any past release and asking the Subversion
> community for a plan on how to fix any potential issues should be
> enough to satisfy concerns about the release process.

I've formally asked for a Waiver of the release requirement. See another thread.

> In fact our formal exit criteria [1] only requires that "release plans
> are developed and executed in public by the community". There is no
> fixed requirement that at least one incubating release really must
> happen (there's just a question on whether such a requirement should
> exist). Of course for most projects doing a release is the easiest way
> to demonstrate that this and many other exit criteria have been
> satisfied.
>
> [1] http://incubator.apache.org/incubation/Incubation_Policy.html#Minimum+Graduation+Requirements

Unfortunately, some documentation needs to be brought in sync.

See: http://incubator.apache.org/guides/graduation.html#checklist

Per Joe, I think it makes sense to run podlings through a release to
teach them the ropes, rather than lump that onto Infrastructure. But I
also believe we should provide waivers when appropriate.

Cheers,
-g

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