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From Greg Stein <>
Subject Re: Insanity (of the release process)
Date Tue, 10 Nov 2009 16:05:56 GMT
On Tue, Nov 10, 2009 at 04:07, William A. Rowe, Jr. <> wrote:
> Leo Simons wrote:
>> Here's what I understand:
>> 1) Apache rule: all apache releases must be made by PMCs
>> 2) Apache rule: a release needs at least 3 binding +1s and more +1s than -1s
>> 3) from #1 and #2 it follows that all incubator releases must be made
>> by the incubator PMC
>> If you see a way to fix this mess, please do. I suspect rule #1 is the
>> whopper that is just quite hard to get around and from it follows a
>> lot of other mess. I don't know exactly where that rule comes from,
>> but it is very old and it has always seemed very solid, too. IANAL.
> Mechanically, it's possible to recharter Incubator PMC as a board committee
> which has the authority to assemble and dissolve fully empowered PPMCs so
> they could begin binding votes from the outset.  The 'P' would change from
> 'pre' to 'provisional'.  I don't know if this is what we want to do, or not.

The Board is trying to move away from Board committees.

The IPMC is in charge of its operation. It can redefine the rules of
releases as it pleases. The three +1 rule was developed to show that
the PMC is "in charge" of the release, and is therefore legally liable
for it. The IPMC can do whatever it likes around releases, as long as
that process specifically claims or disclaims liability.


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