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(c-76-24-122-109.hsd1.ma.comcast.net [76.24.122.109]) by mx.google.com with ESMTPS id 20sm1371979qyk.13.2009.09.05.09.40.38 (version=TLSv1/SSLv3 cipher=RC4-MD5); Sat, 05 Sep 2009 09:40:39 -0700 (PDT) Message-ID: <4AA29486.4050103@gmail.com> Date: Sat, 05 Sep 2009 12:40:38 -0400 From: Davanum Srinivas User-Agent: Mozilla/5.0 (X11; U; Linux i686; en-US; rv:1.9.1.1) Gecko/20090715 Thunderbird/3.0b3 MIME-Version: 1.0 To: general@incubator.apache.org Subject: Re: [PROPOSAL] Apache Aries incubator for Enterprise OSGi References: <4A9FFDD0.8020406@ungoverned.org> <200909040905.42003.dkulp@apache.org> <4AA16F56.3050404@ungoverned.org> <4AA17450.10102@gmail.com> <4AA17915.7050301@ungoverned.org> <487a994c0909050131n42ee26f4hfd713d57c26668d3@mail.gmail.com> <4AA23BAE.4070008@gmail.com> <487a994c0909050729q539b7946xfb0ddea0b21a58f5@mail.gmail.com> In-Reply-To: <487a994c0909050729q539b7946xfb0ddea0b21a58f5@mail.gmail.com> Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1; format=flowed Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit X-Virus-Checked: Checked by ClamAV on apache.org Karl, Please don't get me wrong. Felix is choice for an excellent *destination* TLP. The Incubator PMC itself was setup to take away the responsibility for training incoming folks from existing TLP(s). So my gut feeling is that we should allow the incubation process to go on and decide on destination and scope once the project is ready to graduate. I am sure the folks on the proposal would love to get any and every help they can get to graduate as well as on the technical front. Please do continue to provide help and guidance. thanks, dims On 09/05/2009 10:29 AM, Karl Pauls wrote: > On Sat, Sep 5, 2009 at 12:21 PM, Davanum Srinivas wrote: >> Karl, >> >> There are *many* TLP(s) with overlapping scope as James Strachan pointed out >> earlier in the thread. >> >> >> I don't see the need to shoe horn a new community with new code into an >> existing TLP just because of scope. For all you know by the time they get >> out of the incubator their scope may change a bit (or more). > > I'm sorry if it looked like I wanted to shoe horn anything into felix. > That wasn't my goal as for me it was a question of where I would like > it to happen and as I said earlier already, not the end of the world > if not. > > regards, > > Karl > >> thanks, >> dims >> >> On 09/05/2009 04:31 AM, Karl Pauls wrote: >>> >>> The question >>> is about the scope and goals of Aries and more specifically about the >>> part where it is about being an umbrella for OSGi EE spec >>> implementations where it has been argued that this could/should be >>> done at felix >> >> --------------------------------------------------------------------- >> To unsubscribe, e-mail: general-unsubscribe@incubator.apache.org >> For additional commands, e-mail: general-help@incubator.apache.org >> >> > > > --------------------------------------------------------------------- To unsubscribe, e-mail: general-unsubscribe@incubator.apache.org For additional commands, e-mail: general-help@incubator.apache.org