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From Niclas Hedhman <>
Subject Re: [VOTE] Accept Aries proposal for incubation
Date Fri, 18 Sep 2009 07:05:28 GMT
On Fri, Sep 18, 2009 at 1:27 AM, Bill Stoddard <> wrote:

> I am having a really difficult time getting my head around Jim and Niclas'
> objections that this is an umbrella project.

I think Jim came up with a good lithmus test; "If it is unclear what
should NOT go into a project..."

So, when I read the proposal the second time, my interpretation is
that there is no actual boundary, other than perhaps "OSGi". If it was
"only specs", then I would support Richard's notion that the community
should work towards Felix sub-project (which was a sore point), but
the scope is "enterprise OSGi", which is just about as wide as it
gets. Perhaps the group as such has much better ideas on what they
mean, fair enough, but then *I* would like to see it in the proposal.
After all, it is very common around here that the proposal will become
the basis for the project charter (if any), so *I* think it is better
to address this early (and often ;-) )...

Niclas Hedhman, Software Developer - New Energy for Java

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