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From Gurkan Erdogdu <gurkanerdo...@yahoo.com>
Subject Re: [VOTE][RESULT] Release OpenWebBeans M3
Date Thu, 17 Sep 2009 10:02:20 GMT
>>>Then I'm surprised you chose to do something different and IMO
>>>impatience isn't a good enough reason.
Yes, my fault. 

>>>Sebb indicated that he thought that one of the points he raised was a
>>>blocker and although you responded you didn't allow time to see if he
>>>agreed with you. Giving a response is not reaching consensus.
>>>Sometimes you don't end up agreeing, but you need to allow time to see
>>>if its possible.
Yes agree also. 

Thanks for remindering;

--Gurkan



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From: Niall Pemberton <niall.pemberton@gmail.com>
To: general@incubator.apache.org
Sent: Thursday, September 17, 2009 11:25:55 AM
Subject: Re: [VOTE][RESULT] Release OpenWebBeans M3

On Thu, Sep 17, 2009 at 3:01 AM, Gurkan Erdogdu <gurkanerdogdu@yahoo.com> wrote:
> Hi Niall;
>
>>>>The usual process is to allow 72hrs for a vote and not just declare it
>>>>when 3 votes are received. Also Sebb raised an issue and IMO its good
>>>>etiquette to allow discussions to run their course before declaring a
>>>>vote.
>
>>>>"Votes should generally be permitted to run for at least 72 hours to
>>>>provide an opportunity for all concerned persons to participate
>>>>regardless of their geographic locations."
>>>>from http://www.apache.org/foundation/voting.html
>
> I have already know those rules!.

Then I'm surprised you chose to do something different and IMO
impatience isn't a good enough reason.

> Besides, I was a bit of rush because of waiting too much to release :) Otherwise we were
not able to release something that our community uses!
>
>>>>Also Sebb raised an issue and IMO its good
>>>>etiquette to allow discussions to run their course before declaring a
>>>>vote.
>
> I responded Sebb explanations. I thought that it may not block this release!

Sebb indicated that he thought that one of the points he raised was a
blocker and although you responded you didn't allow time to see if he
agreed with you. Giving a response is not reaching consensus.
Sometimes you don't end up agreeing, but you need to allow time to see
if its possible.

Niall

> If possible I would like to apply Sebb's concerns in next M4 release that we will try
to be perfect :)
>
> Thanks;
>
> --Gurkan
>
>
> ________________________________
> From: Niall Pemberton <niall.pemberton@gmail.com>
> To: general@incubator.apache.org
> Sent: Thursday, September 17, 2009 2:26:57 AM
> Subject: Re: [VOTE][RESULT] Release OpenWebBeans M3
>
> On Wed, Sep 16, 2009 at 10:30 PM, Gurkan Erdogdu
> <cgurkanerdogdu@gmail.com> wrote:
>> Hi;
>>
>> The [VOTE] is now closed. The [VOTE] to release OpenWebBeans-M3 is
>> successful.
>>
>> There are three +1 binding
>
> The usual process is to allow 72hrs for a vote and not just declare it
> when 3 votes are received. Also Sebb raised an issue and IMO its good
> etiquette to allow discussions to run their course before declaring a
> vote.
>
> "Votes should generally be permitted to run for at least 72 hours to
> provide an opportunity for all concerned persons to participate
> regardless of their geographic locations."
> from http://www.apache.org/foundation/voting.html
>
> "The community then tries to gather consensus on an alternative
> proposal that resolves the issue. In the great majority of cases, the
> concerns leading to the negative vote can be addressed."
> from http://www.apache.org/foundation/how-it-works.html#decision-making
>
> Niall
>
>> +1 Votes
>> -----------------
>> * Kevan Miller (binding)
>> * Matthias Wessendorf (binding)
>> * Niall Pemberton (binding)
>>
>>
>> I will add distribution artifacts to the  incubator "dist/"  place and
>> upload to m3-incubator-repository
>>
>> Thanks to all;
>>
>> -- Gurkan
>>
>
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