From general-return-22613-apmail-incubator-general-archive=incubator.apache.org@incubator.apache.org Mon Aug 03 12:23:39 2009 Return-Path: Delivered-To: apmail-incubator-general-archive@www.apache.org Received: (qmail 16491 invoked from network); 3 Aug 2009 12:23:38 -0000 Received: from hermes.apache.org (HELO mail.apache.org) (140.211.11.3) by minotaur.apache.org with SMTP; 3 Aug 2009 12:23:38 -0000 Received: (qmail 19289 invoked by uid 500); 3 Aug 2009 12:23:42 -0000 Delivered-To: apmail-incubator-general-archive@incubator.apache.org Received: (qmail 19094 invoked by uid 500); 3 Aug 2009 12:23:41 -0000 Mailing-List: contact general-help@incubator.apache.org; run by ezmlm Precedence: bulk List-Help: List-Unsubscribe: List-Post: List-Id: Reply-To: general@incubator.apache.org Delivered-To: mailing list general@incubator.apache.org Received: (qmail 19084 invoked by uid 99); 3 Aug 2009 12:23:41 -0000 Received: from nike.apache.org (HELO nike.apache.org) (192.87.106.230) by apache.org (qpsmtpd/0.29) with ESMTP; Mon, 03 Aug 2009 12:23:41 +0000 X-ASF-Spam-Status: No, hits=-0.0 required=10.0 tests=SPF_PASS X-Spam-Check-By: apache.org Received-SPF: pass (nike.apache.org: domain of martijn.dashorst@gmail.com designates 209.85.220.224 as permitted sender) Received: from [209.85.220.224] (HELO mail-fx0-f224.google.com) (209.85.220.224) by apache.org (qpsmtpd/0.29) with ESMTP; Mon, 03 Aug 2009 12:23:32 +0000 Received: by fxm24 with SMTP id 24so2360013fxm.12 for ; Mon, 03 Aug 2009 05:23:12 -0700 (PDT) DKIM-Signature: v=1; a=rsa-sha256; c=relaxed/relaxed; d=gmail.com; s=gamma; h=domainkey-signature:mime-version:received:in-reply-to:references :date:message-id:subject:from:to:content-type :content-transfer-encoding; bh=VznMdYYltnaQ6hMY2wQeFOHcYzK69WiY+8fGr1aFaZw=; b=nnB2C3q9vusnyBMO//h9OcCxcf4u6o9SXHNzevGLUh2SDs5ERIqpU/0LO0QYSjy4jn xL4z1boNwpR/QREuy6/+xNh3oOOrPNMgKQJeu87pfkAnBdo3ZJZUcWcuohL70li+YRCu NDzllBP93C32cgoIdh4e6leut9/QIWOBjj6J0= DomainKey-Signature: a=rsa-sha1; c=nofws; d=gmail.com; s=gamma; h=mime-version:in-reply-to:references:date:message-id:subject:from:to :content-type:content-transfer-encoding; b=p6UY8yjwicFfFMj2eovfl3vLvHYvxI96PXgZ+7RCYNIB/1tCM4YOAj/L8on09dz3PL td9WOnTe7M1pcjz8DH4yJbcG8pkTHPFewlgjRNJmNEo3qs7pZnRmc1jtvZpyUjVVgdUn FcelozGBuIdgbUBxtlSw/5J9oasIADvv3QYvc= MIME-Version: 1.0 Received: by 10.103.173.15 with SMTP id a15mr3467214mup.59.1249302192297; Mon, 03 Aug 2009 05:23:12 -0700 (PDT) In-Reply-To: <61c9bc470908030511u183e7648j4344e02d6d568d2@mail.gmail.com> References: <510143ac0908030459g6982a176xaf00fde568f838e4@mail.gmail.com> <61c9bc470908030511u183e7648j4344e02d6d568d2@mail.gmail.com> Date: Mon, 3 Aug 2009 14:23:12 +0200 Message-ID: <918312fe0908030523n4b54f1beo3539cfeeae51e953@mail.gmail.com> Subject: Re: [VOTE] Graduation of Apache Pivot From: Martijn Dashorst To: general@incubator.apache.org Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1 Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit X-Virus-Checked: Checked by ClamAV on apache.org On Mon, Aug 3, 2009 at 2:11 PM, Ross Gardler wrote: > 2009/8/3 Jukka Zitting : >> Hi, >> >> [x] -1, Apache Pivot is not ready to graduate, because... >> >> I'm not seeing sufficient diversity of active committers [1] and not >> too many people seem to be contributing patches [2]. My suggestion >> would be for Pivot to spend some more time growing the community >> before graduation. > > As I understand it there is sufficient diversity in the people with > binding votes to provide oversight for the project. That is what we > are trying to achieve here. Commit messages are not the only metric to measure activity. Mailinglist activity, participation in technical discussions, filing JIRA issues, commenting on them, voting releases, testing releases, building releases, voting on procedures, etc. All these items are done by the team as a whole, not just the two hard working guys. Focussing solely only on commit messages ignores the community aspect IMO. Martijn --------------------------------------------------------------------- To unsubscribe, e-mail: general-unsubscribe@incubator.apache.org For additional commands, e-mail: general-help@incubator.apache.org