From general-return-22633-apmail-incubator-general-archive=incubator.apache.org@incubator.apache.org Tue Aug 04 09:48:45 2009 Return-Path: Delivered-To: apmail-incubator-general-archive@www.apache.org Received: (qmail 61203 invoked from network); 4 Aug 2009 09:48:45 -0000 Received: from hermes.apache.org (HELO mail.apache.org) (140.211.11.3) by minotaur.apache.org with SMTP; 4 Aug 2009 09:48:45 -0000 Received: (qmail 63330 invoked by uid 500); 4 Aug 2009 09:48:49 -0000 Delivered-To: apmail-incubator-general-archive@incubator.apache.org Received: (qmail 63134 invoked by uid 500); 4 Aug 2009 09:48:48 -0000 Mailing-List: contact general-help@incubator.apache.org; run by ezmlm Precedence: bulk List-Help: List-Unsubscribe: List-Post: List-Id: Reply-To: general@incubator.apache.org Delivered-To: mailing list general@incubator.apache.org Received: (qmail 63124 invoked by uid 99); 4 Aug 2009 09:48:48 -0000 Received: from athena.apache.org (HELO athena.apache.org) (140.211.11.136) by apache.org (qpsmtpd/0.29) with ESMTP; Tue, 04 Aug 2009 09:48:48 +0000 X-ASF-Spam-Status: No, hits=-0.0 required=10.0 tests=SPF_PASS X-Spam-Check-By: apache.org Received-SPF: pass (athena.apache.org: domain of ant.elder@gmail.com designates 209.85.220.224 as permitted sender) Received: from [209.85.220.224] (HELO mail-fx0-f224.google.com) (209.85.220.224) by apache.org (qpsmtpd/0.29) with ESMTP; Tue, 04 Aug 2009 09:48:40 +0000 Received: by fxm24 with SMTP id 24so2906855fxm.12 for ; Tue, 04 Aug 2009 02:48:19 -0700 (PDT) DKIM-Signature: v=1; a=rsa-sha256; c=relaxed/relaxed; d=gmail.com; s=gamma; h=domainkey-signature:mime-version:received:reply-to:in-reply-to :references:date:message-id:subject:from:to:content-type :content-transfer-encoding; bh=rfAsxfwIWOXdyNXQFU1ow3K2M1yC6KMHHW5wKs/sO20=; b=UTjHKmvNv4R5GvfXTGWkZieauS4K+J6SgDJrpTiMYTqSgpeWDhNwgiOs0DEgXUw8zt 5wTM2jU+nCyEKqABzQ0lDSdJpoRogi5EWrU3P1SSGqjCY022ClcS+XBE11gOS1iU4/6Z nft4GZaFmJzbd3xAEAcASMhzo8HdOBjWWM678= DomainKey-Signature: a=rsa-sha1; c=nofws; d=gmail.com; s=gamma; h=mime-version:reply-to:in-reply-to:references:date:message-id :subject:from:to:content-type:content-transfer-encoding; b=lqk6J/A5F5OZylAeiH8G5+Yqu32BtfeNoItyVlHBlj9Huh05vT8gUdtoxondJUlLyf prNAl3lWD7DpvQVf9SHPVXvlU3Vw5V9Zrs3SqUTWuFEli2pkYHuI20cw181i6pufrdfx mZ2QXlNX5cI4aldnsft0uX95nVa0RjiuXl2Mc= MIME-Version: 1.0 Received: by 10.204.71.210 with SMTP id i18mr5684829bkj.48.1249379299526; Tue, 04 Aug 2009 02:48:19 -0700 (PDT) Reply-To: antelder@apache.org In-Reply-To: <61c9bc470908040221w43d50158wa144f63b5cb2cdb2@mail.gmail.com> References: <510143ac0908030459g6982a176xaf00fde568f838e4@mail.gmail.com> <61c9bc470908030511u183e7648j4344e02d6d568d2@mail.gmail.com> <510143ac0908030542o11a68c3dq5dab0ff631afbb15@mail.gmail.com> <61c9bc470908040221w43d50158wa144f63b5cb2cdb2@mail.gmail.com> Date: Tue, 4 Aug 2009 10:48:19 +0100 Message-ID: <71e1b5740908040248k4258a2fao9f8a2877c0780919@mail.gmail.com> Subject: Re: [VOTE] Graduation of Apache Pivot From: ant elder To: general@incubator.apache.org Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1 Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit X-Virus-Checked: Checked by ClamAV on apache.org On Tue, Aug 4, 2009 at 10:21 AM, Ross Gardler wrote: > I would suggest that anyone wishing to vote -1 on the graduation of a > podling on grounds of diversity of code commits needs to back it up > with documented evidence that either a) the committers are not > listening to the community or b) there is no active oversight from > those with voting rights. > The Incubator policy minimum graduation requirements says: "The project is not highly dependent on any single contributor (there are at least 3 legally independent committers and there is no single company or entity that is vital to the success of the project)" - http://incubator.apache.org/incubation/Incubation_Policy.html#Graduating+from+the+Incubator There is a judgement call to be made about if a committer needs to be active and what being active means (posting to the ML vs. committing code etc). Committing code is important, having just two actively committing committers isn't quite enough IMHO, especially when they're both with the same employer. In the past lots of poddlings first graduation vote doesn't pass due to diversity issues, they go away and encourage others to be active committers and graduate on the next attempt and the project is better for it, and thats what I think should happen here with Pivot. ...ant --------------------------------------------------------------------- To unsubscribe, e-mail: general-unsubscribe@incubator.apache.org For additional commands, e-mail: general-help@incubator.apache.org