From general-return-22614-apmail-incubator-general-archive=incubator.apache.org@incubator.apache.org Mon Aug 03 12:42:52 2009 Return-Path: Delivered-To: apmail-incubator-general-archive@www.apache.org Received: (qmail 23770 invoked from network); 3 Aug 2009 12:42:51 -0000 Received: from hermes.apache.org (HELO mail.apache.org) (140.211.11.3) by minotaur.apache.org with SMTP; 3 Aug 2009 12:42:51 -0000 Received: (qmail 39807 invoked by uid 500); 3 Aug 2009 12:42:56 -0000 Delivered-To: apmail-incubator-general-archive@incubator.apache.org Received: (qmail 39625 invoked by uid 500); 3 Aug 2009 12:42:55 -0000 Mailing-List: contact general-help@incubator.apache.org; run by ezmlm Precedence: bulk List-Help: List-Unsubscribe: List-Post: List-Id: Reply-To: general@incubator.apache.org Delivered-To: mailing list general@incubator.apache.org Received: (qmail 39615 invoked by uid 99); 3 Aug 2009 12:42:55 -0000 Received: from athena.apache.org (HELO athena.apache.org) (140.211.11.136) by apache.org (qpsmtpd/0.29) with ESMTP; Mon, 03 Aug 2009 12:42:55 +0000 X-ASF-Spam-Status: No, hits=-0.0 required=10.0 tests=SPF_PASS X-Spam-Check-By: apache.org Received-SPF: pass (athena.apache.org: domain of jukka.zitting@gmail.com designates 209.85.220.224 as permitted sender) Received: from [209.85.220.224] (HELO mail-fx0-f224.google.com) (209.85.220.224) by apache.org (qpsmtpd/0.29) with ESMTP; Mon, 03 Aug 2009 12:42:47 +0000 Received: by fxm24 with SMTP id 24so2369651fxm.12 for ; Mon, 03 Aug 2009 05:42:26 -0700 (PDT) DKIM-Signature: v=1; a=rsa-sha256; c=relaxed/relaxed; d=gmail.com; s=gamma; h=domainkey-signature:mime-version:received:in-reply-to:references :from:date:message-id:subject:to:content-type :content-transfer-encoding; bh=b/oSwCgSY6GmKh8VuvHeL0GV+ref7/LRI1kraN3wFs4=; b=KjnSkm+Qm1/TOAVt+ocLapXmmD5x1UeBg9CEGrWojKw2o7M70slRliXSKIO/MstpLf TzrEHdXuBMlDpYzfjwQ/d1id3ItR0zsTXVUhHwxV34Z9zXtuDH3XQQK/8F85dBDLyfzh MQu8jOOWn0Ubtts7w7S2jkycMA6jQxfA1IsCc= DomainKey-Signature: a=rsa-sha1; c=nofws; d=gmail.com; s=gamma; h=mime-version:in-reply-to:references:from:date:message-id:subject:to :content-type:content-transfer-encoding; b=QtD3kxUvjUvi30zgVxyi7mbtRKPMHOeKdbsIUCErOtdrTHteR0qwJmNwLZS/rQ2Puy 52eTQDspAmcdVQbjpV4FXA8YzHTyuKe/iu4ejABbiWSvVshdR9rgHvaB2YlVnTcJWM1N 536Zthh8RzEr+UcsjDe2KiyHGzVB/qBSu8/v0= MIME-Version: 1.0 Received: by 10.204.102.15 with SMTP id e15mr8230193bko.196.1249303346092; Mon, 03 Aug 2009 05:42:26 -0700 (PDT) In-Reply-To: <61c9bc470908030511u183e7648j4344e02d6d568d2@mail.gmail.com> References: <510143ac0908030459g6982a176xaf00fde568f838e4@mail.gmail.com> <61c9bc470908030511u183e7648j4344e02d6d568d2@mail.gmail.com> From: Jukka Zitting Date: Mon, 3 Aug 2009 14:42:06 +0200 Message-ID: <510143ac0908030542o11a68c3dq5dab0ff631afbb15@mail.gmail.com> Subject: Re: [VOTE] Graduation of Apache Pivot To: general@incubator.apache.org Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1 Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit X-Virus-Checked: Checked by ClamAV on apache.org Hi, On Mon, Aug 3, 2009 at 2:11 PM, Ross Gardler wrote: > As I understand it there is sufficient diversity in the people with > binding votes to provide oversight for the project. That is what we > are trying to achieve here. I didn't hear this argument against Apache > Sling which has a less diverse active community than Pivot [3] Sling explicitly waited until there were active committers from three independent backgrounds until asking for graduation. Sling also had scores of people submitting patches. I'm not seeing that in Pivot. As for focusing solely on commit messages, also the number of patch contributions in Pivot seems pretty low for a diverse community. As far as I can tell only one person has been submitting code patches through the issue tracker. At the end of the day it's the people who write the code that decide where a project goes, and by my personal count Pivot doesn't yet have enough diversity there. BR, Jukka Zitting --------------------------------------------------------------------- To unsubscribe, e-mail: general-unsubscribe@incubator.apache.org For additional commands, e-mail: general-help@incubator.apache.org