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From ant elder <antel...@apache.org>
Subject Re: Making up policy on the fly
Date Fri, 21 Aug 2009 06:31:10 GMT
On Thu, Aug 20, 2009 at 11:25 AM, Marcel
Offermans<marcel.offermans@luminis.nl> wrote:
> On Aug 20, 2009, at 10:12 , ant elder wrote:
>
> On Thu, Aug 20, 2009 at 8:15 AM, Bertrand
> Delacretaz<bdelacretaz@apache.org> wrote:
>
> I agree with Bill that it's a good thing for the Incubator to clarify
>
> best practices, and teach podlings to follow them even if older
>
> projects sometimes don't. We tend to do the same for our kids, don't
>
> we ? ;-)
>
> I don't have any issue with trying to teach poddlings best practices
> being a good idea, but i don't think the way we're handling poddling
> releases is doing that. [...]
>
> I think a big cause of frustration for poddlings and mentors is the
> unpredictable nature of release reviews with each vote for a release
> or RC respin getting a different set of best practice requirements
> depending on who is around to review.
>
> Bertrand's analogy about educating kids highlights the problem. No two
> parents raise their children in exactly the same way and if lots of them all
> give their interpretation about "values" and "best practices" the message
> can become quite confusing to these kids.
> So is there anything that can be done to streamline that? Like having just
> the mentors of the project vote on the release, instead of everybody? If the
> mentors do a bad job, hold them accountable directly without "confusing" the
> project.
> Does that make any sense?
> Greetings, Marcel
>

It does make sense to me, we probably can't and shouldn't prohibit any
one from voting but what would help towards that is the suggestion
earlier in this thread to have the release vote held on just the
poddlings dev list with only notification to general@.

   ...ant

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