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From sebb <seb...@gmail.com>
Subject Re: [VOTE] Release cassandra 0.4.0-beta1
Date Mon, 17 Aug 2009 18:09:07 GMT
On 17/08/2009, ant elder <ant.elder@gmail.com> wrote:
> On Mon, Aug 17, 2009 at 4:28 PM, Craig L Russell<Craig.Russell@sun.com> wrote:
>  > Hi Ant,
>  >
>  > On Aug 17, 2009, at 7:33 AM, ant elder wrote:
>  >
>  >> On Mon, Aug 17, 2009 at 3:04 PM, sebb<sebbaz@gmail.com> wrote:
>  >>
>  >>>>
>  >>>>  >> the NOTICE file looks acceptable to me too.
>  >>>>  >
>  >>>>  > AIUI, the NOTICE file needs to give attributions to all 3rd party
>  >>>> code
>  >>>>  > included in the propose release.
>  >>>>
>  >>>>
>  >>>> no - just require 3rd party attribution notices and relocated
>  >>>>  copyrights (see http://www.apache.org/legal/src-headers.html#notice)
>  >>>
>  >>> So all the 3rd party licenses need to be checked to see if they
>  >>> require attribution or not.
>  >>>
>  >>> I've only checked one - Antlr - and AFAICT that does require
>  >>> attribution (notice).
>  >>>
>  >>
>  >> The contents of the NOTICE file is another area I think is not so
>  >> precisely defined.
>  >> http://www.apache.org/legal/src-headers.html#notice says:
>  >>
>  >> "The remainder of the NOTICE file is to be used for required
>  >> third-party notices"
>  >
>  > The NOTICE file is where downstream consumers of Apache software expect to
>  > find *all* *required* third-party notices.
>  >>
>  >> but there is nothing that defines what are "required third-party
>  >> notices". The ANTLR license (http://www.antlr.org/license.html) says:
>  >>
>  >> "Redistributions in binary form must reproduce the above copyright
>  >> notice, this list of conditions and the following disclaimer in the
>  >> documentation and/or other materials provided with the distribution."
>  >
>  > When a notice includes the words "required", "must", "shall", or other
>  > imperative, then the notice is considered to be a "required third-party
>  > notice". And it should therefore be placed into the top level NOTICE file of
>  > the distribution.
>
>
> But if thats what we take as the meaning then that would mean the
>  entire ANTLR license should be included

Yes.

>  in the NOTICE file

No, it can be elsewhere.

>  because the
>  ANTLR license clause is asking for three things to be reproduced:
>
>  1) the above copyright notice

That's the NOTICE bit.

>  2) this list of conditions
>  3) the following disclaimer
>
>  So is the suggestion then that all those three things be included in
>  the NOTICE file? I've not seen any Apache projects do that.

No, just put the Copyright header in the NOTICE file

Put the entire license in the LICENSE file.

>
>    ...ant
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